Wireless Dog Fence Reviews

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Wireless Dog Fences create a circular boundary around a central base station using radio waves. They are quick to set up, but are not yet anywhere near as good as in-ground (wired) dog fences. The units have a lot of trouble going through obstacles, particularly a metal roof, siding, trees, and some walls. They are also imprecise, with even the best system, the boundary will move 3-5 feet second-to-second. The units can also be slow to respond, meaning the dog can get the correction too late and can keep getting the correction for a few seconds after they return.

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Boundary Wobble

Boundary Wobble Graph

Boundary wobble, the movement of the boundary line from moment to moment, is one of the principle drawbacks of wireless fence systems. When the boundary line is inconsistent and moves, it is more difficult for the dog to learn where exactly the boundary is. It is also difficult in situations where you need a clear boundary to keep the dog out of danger that is on the other side of the boundary.

The Havahart had by far the least boundary wobble of any wireless dog fence systems – by an extraordinary factor of three, but still it was not as good as a traditional wired systems which have close to zero wobble.

Perimeter Technology’s Wifi Fence had a very high amount of wobble – making it one to avoid. This result was very surprising to us, since Perimeter and Havahart use similar wifi technology. Nonetheless, the Havahart outperformed the Wifi head-to-head in all our testing scenarios.

The Petsafe Wireless was somewhere in the middle and makes a credible budget option. To our surprise, the newer and more expensive PetSafe Stay + Play had worse wobble than the older model.

Retreat Response

Retreat Response Graph

Retreat response the distance the dog has to retreat in order to stop getting the correction is the other drawback of wireless systems. Wireless systems require the dog to retreat a much greater distance to stop receiving the correction. This again makes training more difficult because the dog has to be taught to retreat a long distance, and is not rewarded with the cessation of the correction as soon as they start retreating.

Again the Havaharts outpaced the PetSafes and trounced the Perimeter Wifi with significant. And again, wired systems outperformed the Havaharts.

Testing Methodology

The systems were tested operating at a 70 foot radius in two test scenarios. The first scenario required the system to penetrate several interior and exterior walls, the second scenario required the system to deal with natural obstructions including vegetation and a mild slope.

Note that the boundary wobble and retreat response will vary depending on a users setup. In setups where you have a high level of obstructions or a wider boundary radius expect the level of performance to deteriorate up. Conversely, if you have a smaller radius or fewer obstructions expect superior performance.

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Sarah November 17, 2011 at 11:38 pm

After reading all this information, I am rethinking a wireless system, so I have wired system questions. I have a German shepherd mix (5 years) and a lab mix (4 years) and I now rent a home, when I used to own. They are great dogs with a loud bark and no bite and are both about 80 pounds, but as they are on the ‘naughty dog’ insurance list, my landlord only agreed to let me move in with a giant liability insurance policy and a containment system. I live in a house on a neighborhood lot with a decent size back yard and a detached garage. My spoiled pups come inside to eat and come inside either the house (crates) or garage to sleep.

Does the wire have to be buried? I am thinking the wire would have to run around the outside of the house and garage and the inside of the yard fence, but there are sidewalks, a driveway, and various other things preventing me from burying the wire. Can I attach the wire to the fence and the house? Can the wire be up high or does it have to be within a certain distance from the collar (ie 2-3 feet from the ground)? I don’t want to just lay it across the sidewalk and doorway, but I need to know if that is the only way. I think that is all. I got a ridiculously large quote from someone and decided that I would do whatever needed to be done myself. I can read and learn and make it work, but I want to make an informed decision that will work for me. Thanks in advance!

ADMIN – Hi Sarah,
No, the wire does not have to be buried. You can run it along the ground and secure it with lawn staples. You can attach the wire both to the house and fence. I recommend insulated staples to prevent wire damage. The signal transmits off the wire at an adjustable radius. So, an acceptable boundary range is between 3 and 12 feet. So, you can suspend the wire off the ground several feet with no problem. And yes, we believe you can do this yourself as well. It’s not difficult. Plus, we provide you our installation and training guide by email. And on top of that, we are available 7 days a week to field any questions you may have.

marina November 15, 2011 at 1:41 am

I’m considering purchasing a wireless system for our vacation property in Mexico with a yard about the size of a town house yard. The house is made out of cement blocks and I wanted to know if the wireless system will have a problem transmiting the signal through the cement and blocks? I’m familar with in ground wire systems as I have invisible fencing system at my home in Canada. The problem I see using the in ground wire system is if I ran the wire on my property the dog would not really have any back yard to roam as you need to keep the warning field wide enough to stop the dog from running through after animals and if the wire was on my property the warning field would be my backyard. I therefore think a wireless system would work better in my situation as I can expand the field for the warning area to be on my neighbors property so that the dog has full use of my small yard, could you let me know your thoughts.? Does the wireless Havahart system require a computer or internet? thanks

I have a invisible fencing system with the wire in the ground but you need about a min. of 5 feet for the boundry to stop the dog from running through and the problem in Mexico is that our yards are so small that if I ran the wire my dog would not be able to use the yard as it would be to small

ADMIN – Hi Marina,

Thick cement walls and bricks might hinder the fence signal which could make it difficult to establish a consistent boundary. However, it’s difficult to know exactly if your home will pose a real problem without giving it a try. No, the Havahart does not require a computer.

Clare November 8, 2011 at 8:07 pm

I live on a rectangular lot that is about 3/4 an acre. I only want my dog to be let into my backyard. She is an extremely hyper 7 month old Lab. We have two very violent dogs that live next to us that have attacked and killed 2 dogs previously. I do not want a wire fence but I’m having trouble finding the right kind of electric fence. My yard is on a hill and I have a few trees in the backyard. What kind of fence should I use?

ADMIN – Hi Clare,

Most wireless fences will only let you have a circular boundary, so are not a great choice if you want a backyard only layout. The Havahart custom, will let you have more flexibility, although it is significantly more expensive than the other wireless fences. Also the hill and tree could be problematic – a good rule of thumb is that if they would block line of site, they will also stop the wireless signal. A wired fence would solve these problem, but of course has the disadvantage that you need to lay the wire.

PS – if the problem is the neighbor’s dogs coming into your yard, none of the electronic fences are going to help, they will only stop your dog going to your neighbor’s property.

Katie November 4, 2011 at 11:12 am

We are researching fence options and the wireless option is our first choice. We have a 7 year old choc lab. Our house has a walk-out basement so our yard slopes on one side. Some of the comments I’ve read here say wired would be our only option. Could we put the base unit in the basement window or would that then cause the signal to not go towards the other side of the house?

ADMIN – Hi Katie,

A wired system is likely the only option where you have that much slope in the yard. If you put the transmitter in the basement you would likely get a signal on the walk-out side, but you would not get a good signal on the side that is underground.

Gary October 26, 2011 at 12:59 am

I am considering a system for my 6 month old 60 pound Akaskan Malamute. I am tossed up between a wireless vs a wired system. I like the ease and convenience of the wireless but am concerned about the effectiveness. If I opt for a wired system, would the IUC-4100 do the job or must I use the stubborn dog unit for which I do not like the collar size or battery arrangement?

ADMIN – Hi Gary,

We rarely recommend a wireless fence over a wired one. Alaskan Malamute’s do very well on the Innotek IUC 4100 and that’s the fence we’d recommend you. Due note that with a Malamute, we also recommend contacting Innotek to purchase the thick fur probes that are essential to making contact through the Malamute’s thick undercoat. The thick fur probe is different than the long probe that comes with the fence.

darryl swain October 13, 2011 at 11:35 am

I have a Rat Terrier who is pretty quick on his feet. On the side of my house, i have a cement driveway and a 25 feet across grass lot. I have an existing fence which run U shape from the front sidewalk enclosing one side of the lot to around the back side of my house. However, i do not have a fence covering the front of my lot and driveway. Please what do you recommend on how i can fence in the front? I hate putting him on a 40 feet leach and I just want him to run around. Fencing off the lot and driveway in the front of my home is not an option. Thank you.

Admin- Hi Darryl,

You have two setup options for the front of your property. The first one is what we call a single sided boundary. You will run twisted wire from you transmitter out to the front of your property and form the boundary loop. The second option would be a whole perimeter install. You would be able to attach the boundary wire to the existing fence in the rear and bury the wire in the front. Please see the links below for the install diagrams.

Single Side: http://www.dogfencediy.com/installation/plan/#singleside
Whole Perimeter: http://www.dogfencediy.com/installation/plan/#perimeter

Tyler October 10, 2011 at 9:17 pm

Hi. We are considering a Havaheart Custom wireless set-up, but have a few questions I hope you can help us with. The first being elevation; the property is roughly 1.5 acres and the house sits towards the back of the lot with a 30 foot drop-off going down the driveway. I would like to know if you think the system would be effective past the drop-off point (and how far). If it is a line of site system, would placing the transmitter on the 2nd floor help? The second question is regarding high tension wires. One edge of our lot has high tension wires and I was wondering if or how this might affect the wireless system. The third question; we have 2 big brick/stone fireplaces on either end of the house, will this likely cause interference.

Should we go with a wire (in-ground) system?

ADMIN – Hi Tyler,

Unfortunately, we cannot speculate how well a wireless fence will operate on your property. It really only comes down to testing it on your property. Wireless fence technology is finicky and the results depend on each property you test it on. Both the Havahart and PetSafe wireless systems create a sphere, not a line of site boundary so placing the transmitter on a second floor will not be of benefit.

There is a low risk of the high tension wires affecting the wireless signal. Walls, trees, buildings, and flat surface area metals are all much bigger factors determining functionality. So, the fireplaces may be a significant barrier for the wireless to travel through.

We always recommend a wired system over a wireless fence. There still is no comparison in reliability and functionality. A wired fence, while creating more work upfront with installation, offers a crisp boundary shaped exactly to the contours of your property and is very low maintenance.

Jess September 26, 2011 at 3:53 pm

Hi, we live on 40 acres with an old farmhouse, old barn, old steel sheds and buildings and such. We bought the Havahart Radial Wireless system. We did not read anywhere in the manual that metal buildings would interfere, we read it over and over. I think they should change this in their manuals. It also still states that the collars are waterproof, they are not, they are only water resistant. Anyway, we installed, tested, trained our houndog and it was working at 95% I would say for about a month. It stopped working well at all and when I called the customer service dept. they were helpful in the way that they admitted to having some bad circuits and had made some changes. So they sent us out a new unit and we sent the bad one back. Two weeks later the new collar completely quit with a solid red light, which is not even an option in the manual. Again I talked to the customer service dept. and they said the circuit went bad and that they would personally see one being tested and sent another new collar, I sent the bad one back. Four days it lasted and there were quite a few dead spots in the yard and it was correcting at wrong times. We also had installed a steel roof on the house during this waiting period for the last collar. Although there wasn’t much change between the last two collars. The houndog figured it out quickly and was back to his old tricks of venturing off for hours. Now the company that makes Havahart is gladly refunding our money when they receive the unit, due to all the time and effort we have all put in to make it work.
So now we are looking at the in-ground fence as that seems to be the option. After reading some of the comments above, I am very curious as to how far away the fence will need to be away from any and all steel buildings on the property so that there isn’t an issue. It does not state on any of the product informations that I have been reading that it is even an issue. So since you seem to know a lot about all of the products I was wondering if you would know this. We have been looking and are really leaning towards the IUC-4100 but I am worried about the signal with buildings and reliability of the wire. What would you suggest? Thanks!

ADMIN – Hi Jess,

The wired dog fences are much more predictable. Unlike the wireless which respond very differently in different homes, you should a very consistent boundary with the wired systems. The electronics are also a lot simpler and more rugged.

You want to keep the wire about six feet away from the steel buildings. The buildings aren’t going to block the signal as they do with the wireless systems, they will actually amplify the signal with the wired systems. So if you run the wire too close and parallel to the steel buildings, you will often get the building itself acting like it is dog fence.

One thing to note – the Innotek is only rated up to 25 acres. If you want to do all 40 acres, take a look at the SportDog SDF-100A

“you seem to know a lot about all of the products” –> Boy thatns Jess, that seems to be a compliment :)

Denice September 25, 2011 at 10:06 pm

We live in wooded area and have a Great Pyrenees and Bernese Mountain Dog. Both have been horse fenced in for approx. 2 yrs. Would like to give more room to roam so would like to go with underground wire fence. What would you recommend? Have many deer in area and want to head dogs off from being able to run after them. Also have a large Pole building and live in a trailer. Does all this aluminum pose a problem? Thank-you!!

ADMIN – Hi Denice,

For a Pyrenees and a Bernese, the SportDog SDF-100A (up to 100 acres), Innotek IUC-4100 (up to 25 acres) or the PetSafe Stubborn (up to 10 acres) would be good choices. All three can comfortably handle larger dogs. The SportDog and PetSafe are a little cheaper, but have bulkier collars and use a disposable battery. The Innotek is a little more expensive, but is smaller and uses a rechargeable battery. All three are reliable, with some training from you would get the job done.

Keep the dog fence boundary line away from the aluminum (10+ feet if possible). If you get the dog fence lines running close and parallel to the aluminum siding on the trailer it can amplify the signal. This leads to unwanted signals around the trailer.

Mark Fletcher September 25, 2011 at 6:24 pm

My yard is fenced on 3 sides and would like to know if there is any way to use a wire or wireless system to contain our lab so that he will not leave the yard through the exposed side.

ADMIN – Hi Mark,

To block the fourth open side – a wired system would be your best bet. You can run a long thin loop along the open side to create a barrier. Or alternatively, you can run the wire along all four sides – for the fenced sides run the wire along the top of the fence – that way the signal will be diminished at ground level along the fence line.

Susan September 20, 2011 at 12:33 pm

We are getting a very well trained 8 yr old Labradoodle. Our entire yard is only 1/3 of an acre or less. The back has traditional fencing on 2/3’s of it already. We just need something across the back portion that connects our neighbors yard and then, the sides of our house to keep our new pup from going out front to the street. There are houses on either side of us that are apprx 25 feet apart – the fences end at that point. So, we are only dealing with 3 small areas where Cooper will be able to get out. I’m thinking wireless but am wondering which would cover such a small radius that would work for us. Suggestions? Thanks!

ADMIN – Hi Susan,

The Pawz Away Rock may be helpful if you only want to block a couple of small areas. You would either place one of these pods in each of the gaps, and create a small loop off each rock to block the area.

Particularly if you have a small area or a long thin-plot (which it sounds like you have), avoid the wireless systems. You need to have such large buffers, that it would shrink down your yard even further and give very little space for the Labradoodle.

Shannon September 20, 2011 at 10:50 am

We have a lovely Beagle who likes to go for her own walks. We have had a wire electirc fence for 5 years now. It recently was blown up by a lightning strike We were thinking about wireless do to the fact that in the winter if the snow is too high the transmission to her color doesnt work so she can escape all winter long as we can’t get to the line with all the snow on it. She has about an acre of freedom. Also no one can watch the dog if we go on vacation but with wireless we should be able to eliminate those problems. My only concern is that we live on the top of a small hill and have pine trees circling our home. currently the pine trees are the line where we have the wired fence so her area is all cleared. Not sure if the wireless will work or not and it is expensive if it doesn’t work for us!

ADMIN – Hi Shannon,

It is difficult to predict how much the wireless will like a particular property. We would prefer you to stick to wired, but if you want to try wireless and it does not work for you we will take it back (for 30 days)

In your favor, you have the fact that the dog is already trained, which will help make training her on the wireless much easier. Also you have trees beyond the boundary line which will mean less interference.

Working against you, the land sounds like it slopes down away from the house which reduces the quality of the wireless signal. A good rule, is that if it is steep enough that you don’t get a line of site down the slope it is not going to work.

Laura September 17, 2011 at 9:41 pm

Hi! Looking for wireless suggestions for our 2 dogs. We have a 75lb lab and a 30lb bloodhound/lab puppy. We’ve had a Petsafe inground fence before. Our lab was shocked once by it and never went out in back again. We would really like to go for the wireless at this time, but also want something gentle. What can you suggest? Thanks!

ADMIN – Hi Laura,

The Havahart Radial Wireless would be your best choice, and you can set the correction levels to the lowest setting to start. Also if you have a nervous dog, the first week of training where there is no correction is particularly important. That gives your dog a good foundation to understand why they get the shock and how to make it stop. So equipped, the dog is much less likely to get fearful.

For ease of training, the wired systems would be a better bet. The inconsistency of the wireless boundary lines make the correction less predictable which is what causes nervousness in dogs more than the actual correction level.

Tahna September 7, 2011 at 9:38 am

We have two huskies that like to stay around the home unless there is something that catches their eye, and then it is their mission to get whatever caught their attention. We live in a home that has a tin roof and we are surrounded by pine trees. I really like the idea of putting the collar on and letting them outside by themselves. Where the fence should go for the in ground is all trees and would be horrible to dig up a trench. Would Wireless work well for us?

ADMIN – Hi Tahna,

With a metal roof and trees, the wireless is not going to work well for you.

To use a wired fence in a tree filled area, if the area is not mowed, then we just staple the wire down to the ground with lawn staples. Trying to bury the wire among tree roots is not fun!

JD August 31, 2011 at 3:22 pm

I have a 20 lb. terrier, that will chase anything that runs from him (hardheaded), We only have around half acre at most, with lake frontage. We have a side walk going down the middle and 30 ft side of house with inside storage on the west side, sort of a flag pole with flag configuration. We would like to know what system would work best. THANK YOU JD


If you are looking at a wireless fence, the Havahart radial wireless would be your best bet. Of course if you can lay down wire, the Innotek IUC-4100 would be even better.

As to being hard-headed, training is the key. With the two initial weeks of training, it is rare for a dog to not be contained.

gerry August 27, 2011 at 6:52 pm

i have a paved equip yard with no power outlet, 2 big stubborn dogs. The yard is 180 ft x 180 ft, do you have something that is solar powered or battery powered ? i have a solar powered horse fence that doesn’t do much as they are smart and get around it, that is why i think a shock collar would work.

Admin- Hi Gerry,

Unfortunately we do not offer a system that is solar powered. The Innotek IUC-4100 offers a battery back up. The system can operate for 40-hours on fresh batteries. Note the system would need to be in a secure location from the elements (wind, rain, snow).

Brian August 18, 2011 at 1:54 pm

I have a Decker Terrier, which is similar to a large rat terrrier. I have about wired in ground fence around 3 acres. Which includes a couple outbuildings and a small patch of woods. Being a terrier he chased a rabbit outside the line where he learned the shock is only temporary. Now when he disides to chase something he just charges through it even though the everything is on the highest setting. I am looking for something to contain the similar area but will continue to correct him while he is outside the area. Can you help me?

Bob August 7, 2011 at 11:02 pm

Considering buying a Havahart spherical wireless fencing system. Please clarify whether the objects that cause signal interference or interruption lie within and beyond the boundary or just within the boundary?

I have a metal utility building situated beyond the distance from where I would set the correction. So, will the signal be degraded in that perimeter chord of the circle or not?

Conversely, our house contains aluminum garage doors and there is a detached brick workshop building also with a metal garage door. All these objects lie within the 200 foot radius I want to set up. Will the Havahart system fail completely on this side of the circle as a result of these objects blocking the signal transmission?

ADMIN – Hi Bob,

The main cause of signal interruption issues are large metal objects inside the boundary. There would no issue with the utility building outside the perimeter. Metal garage doors can also create a problem but are usually less of a problem because the area is smaller. If possible, keep the systems as far away from the garage doors as possible.

Melanie August 6, 2011 at 8:12 pm

We have two large breed dogs, a german shepherd and a golden retriever. The golden is primarily a house dog and the shepherd is primarily a yard dog. I would like to set two zones for the german shepherd. One for daytime to confine her to the back 1/2 acre of our yard to prevent her access to the driveway, front door and parking area. The second area would be night time to allow her to patrol the immediate perimeter of the entire house. Is this possible to create two zones for her. The golden would need to have access to the entire area. Our yard is level and rectangular. We do not have metal roofing. Melanie

ADMIN – Hi Melanie,

You can’t have a two zone system with a wireless system. With a wired system, you could do a hourglass style layout that will create a separate front and back zone. For more information take a look at our Installation –> Layouts section for some diagrams.

Mark Holman August 5, 2011 at 12:18 pm

As for inground fencing, due to the configuration of our yard we need to do just a single ‘cross fence’ but there is not enough room to come back with a loop without having it too close to the ‘cross fence, which as i understand would cancel the parallel cross fence. can we run a single cross fence, and then loop back some distance away with a triple loop which would be inactive?
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Admin- Hi Mark,

Sorry, there is no way to create a dead spot in the middle of the boundary loop. The boundary wire will have to make a complete loop for it to work properly. Your best option will be our single sided boundary layout.

Single sided: http://www.dogfencediy.com/installation/plan/#singleside

Kris August 4, 2011 at 9:23 pm

We have two scenarios we need to deal with. Our entire lot is 8 acres. We have a Great Pyr who loves to run. We want to keep her contained in a 2 acre area that is fenced using 4 ft non-climb horse fencing, with one side also having wood fencing along it. Our metal barn sits along one corner of this area.

We also have two other dogs – a 15 yr old, 17 pound Westie and a 9 mo old 80 pound Great Dane pup. We have a 6 ft high patio with stairs going down to ground level in the back. We want to let the dogs out and contain them in the back section of the yard, but not let them get to the fenced pasture area where the Great Pyr needs to stay. I would like the Great Pyr to be able to extend outside her fenced area,and be able to play with the other dogs, if able.

I saw the post about using 2 systems, but not sure a wireless would work. What do you recommend? Thank you.

Admin- Hi Kris,

A great fence for your set-up will be the PetSafe Stubborn/Large Dog system. We recommend the PetSafe Stubborn Dog collar for the Great Pyrenees and the Great Dane. The best collar for the Westie will be the PetSafe Deluxe. The PetSafe Stubborn dog fence comes with 500 feet of wire. To complete your project set-up you will need a total of 3000 feet of wire.

You will be able to run the complete loop around your property to contain the Great Pyrenees. Then you will be able to create a secondary boundary inside of your main loop to contain the other two dogs. Please view our layouts page for exclusion zones.

Exclusion zones: http://www.dogfencediy.com/installation/plan/#exclusion

Matt August 3, 2011 at 8:44 pm

Hello Stewart, my question, I need a wireless fence for my does. Does the PetSafe PIF-300 interfere with wireless internet signal in my house?? Thank you very much, Matt

ADMIN – Hi Matt,

The wireless dog fences (and the wired dog fences) do not interfere with Wireless Internet.

Greg August 2, 2011 at 10:55 am

Is it necessary to bury the wired fences? We rent a house and don’t want to dig up the property. There’s also an asphalt driveway around the front door.

ADMIN – Hi Greg,

There is no need to bury the wire on a dog containment system, the system works fine above ground. You probably want to bury wire in sections where the lawn is mowed – otherwise the lawnmower will tear up the wire.

Across the driveway, the wire does not need to be buried – it is surprisingly resilient to being driven over (the only applies to smooth asphalt/concrete driveways, not the more abrasive gravel driveways; also note that if the driveway is snow plowed that will tear up the wire). You may need to replace the driveway section of wire every 1-2 years, but that is no big deal.

Terri July 29, 2011 at 9:40 pm

We are being relocated and while waiting to sell our home we will be renting. We have a german shepard and labradoodle who are used to a fenced backyard. Our rental home does not have a fence. What do you think our best option would be?

Thank you for any guidance you can give

Admin- Hi Terri,

The best option will be the PetSafe Stubborn/Large Dog fence. You will be able to use the included Stubborn dog collar on the German Shepard and bundle in an additional PetSafe Deluxe collar for the Labradoodle. With the PetSafe Stubborn dog system you will have independent correction level; therefore, you will be able to set the correction level for each dog on the collar itself.

Peggy July 4, 2011 at 7:11 pm

I have a Petsafe stubborn dog inground system that covers 10 acres. We have just gotten a little beagle and this is too much area to locate her. We want to keep this big area for the bigger dogs. Could we get a wireless system to contain the beagle inside the 10 acres? Will the 2 systems interfere with each other? What would be the preferable system; flat ground, quite a few trees and bushes, no metal problems. Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Peggy,

The wireless fences do not interfere with the wired systems – the two can coexist happily.

The best of the wireless systems is the Havahart radial – note that the Havahart and indeed all the wireless systems do not do well with a lot of trees in the yard.

Melody July 2, 2011 at 4:27 pm

Hi, I have read the reviews and comments on the Havahart wireless system but still don’t know the answer to my question …we have an Elkhound cross that really likes to go golfing in the summer months. (He doesn’t leave the yard when the Golf Course is closed for the season) My question is: we have a bi-level stuccoed house, if we put the transmitter in the basement (which is a wood basement that is 4′ above ground) by a window, would we still have problems with the metal in the stucco for the radio signal? Also we have a few oak trees by the house too….would we have to keep him towards the back of the house only? I had at one time bought a “shock” collar, and it worked even on medium to low for him. Problem was we couldn’t pick up the phone or remote, because he thought he was going to get a shock, so we stopped using it. I’m hoping this would be a good product for us as we have a lot of open area before the bush area of our property, but really would rather not go with the wired fence.
Also:Our neighbour has a nice sized dog kennel made of metal posts and wire, will that affect our boundary line as well? As it’s right on our property line where our firepit area is. thanks

ADMIN – Hi Melody,

A golfing Elk Hound … formidable!

If the above ground basement is wood, then the signal should be able to get out even if the floor above has metal walls. The occasional tree is fine, the problems emerge where there is a strand of trees that create a ‘wall,’ blocking the signal.

The neighbor’s dog kennel with metal posts and wire should not be a problem. It is sheet metal than causes most of the problems, not thin section of metal (like posts and wires).

Amy June 29, 2011 at 2:48 pm

We have two large dogs that are used to an underground fence at home, but we are considering getting an RV and a wireless fence to have a small (campsite) size area “fenced” for travel. We also plan to flag the perimeter at each new location and we would monitor the dogs outside.

I do worry about obstructions, but I think if we kept the area small enough, we could avoid most trees, etc. However, I’m not sure if a wired or wireless fence would be a better option in this case. What would you suggest?

ADMIN – Hi Amy,

I prefer to use a wired fence even with an RV, just stapling down the wire at each new site. It is a little more work but it is a lot more consistent and is not prone to any interference.

Wireless systems have trouble going through the metal of an RV, meaning you have to put them on the roof. As you mentioned they also have a lot of problems with obstacles like trees. They are however a lot easier in terms of installation. And with previously trained dogs, they are just as effective in keeping the dogs contained.

Dialer June 22, 2011 at 11:24 pm

I just purchased the Havahart system, and it has too many holes in it to work well. It appears that angles that go through my garage and my neighbors garage create openings for my Puggle. Is it because of the cars, the garage door, or something else that I’m forgetting. Thanks.

ADMIN – Hi Dialer,

If the garage doors are metal, that could well be what is causing gaps in the system coverage. The metal garage doors block the signal and if there aren’t enough signals getting around the sides you get gaps in the system.

Wendy June 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm

I have a 3 acre rectangle property bordered on the north by a sizable creek that likely will deter my rat terrier. The long south and short east & west property lines are what I am most concerned with. Does the wireless systems come in any projection range other than a circle? Can I get may be 2 or 3 units to project the 3 property boundaries I am most concerned about?

ADMIN – Hi Wendy,

There are two wireless options where you want a rectangle rather than a circle.

(1) The Havahart Custom Wireless Fence lets you have a completely custom shape.

(2) The PetSafe Wireless system lets you only have circles. But, you can overlap units to get something closer to a rectangle.

James June 9, 2011 at 11:26 am

Hi, my name is James and I have a few quick questions about the havahart wireless fence and the Petsafe PIF-300. I want to get one of these units for my 4 month old Pitbull. My mini austrailian shepherd, our family dog, has a wireless fence and my new puppy the pitbull is currently using a runner, which trips everyone, we’re scared it’s going to hurt one of the dogs as they like to roll around and play kind of rough and the pitbull, colby, goes to my house, my girlfriends, my house at school, our cottage, pretty much everywhere my girlfriend and I go. So we wanted a wireless one to take with us when we go places to make everything easier. Now my dilemma is, the havahart you say is the best, however how well do you think the collar will stand up to rougher play? Versus the more bulky seemingly more durable collar in the Petsafe? My second question is I know you say the lines shift greater for the petsafe, is that just at a large distance? I will never have either of them set to their potential, my lot is not that big. How much is a replacement collar for either, if you know? Is the havahart really that much better that regardless of the collars it’s by far the better option? Lastly, how do these units do with elevation? I have a walkout basement, so my front yard is maybe 10ft higher than the backyard, if I have the unit on my main level, which would be 10 or so feet above my backyard and directly even with my front yard, would it still work? Vice versa is I have the unit at my backyard level would it keep her in the front yard that is 10 of so feet higher than the back? Or would I have to pick front or back yard to zone in the area?
Sorry that this is a million questions, but it’s hard to get answers from just descriptions of the two units. Thanks in advance for your help! Thanks, James

ADMIN – Hi James,

(1) The Havahart is by far the better of the two and the price difference is small, so it would be my choice. Extra collars on the Havahart are $150, they are $120 for the PetSafe.

Both collars are comparable in terms of durability. The Havhart is a bit bigger and has no external controls which is great for durability. The PetSafe is a little better in terms of waterproofing – it is fully waterproof, unlike the Havahart which is only water resistant (i.e. it can stand up to rain but not full immersion)

To stop rough play with collars, we usually spray them with something unpleasant like Bitter Apple for a few days so the dogs get out of the habit.

(2) With elevation, our rule of thumb is that if you can get a line of site it is likley to work, if you cannot get a line of site it is unlikely to work (imagining all the buildings were made of glass so you could see through them). I would place the unit on the higher main floor, not the lower basement.

Our test were run with all the systems set at the same boundary radius (70 feet). As you rightly point out, the test would be unfair if you set everything to their maximum capacity.

Dave B. June 2, 2011 at 10:18 pm

I have a question regarding the Havahart Custom wireless system. I have two dogs, both weighing about 45 lbs each, who both will take off at will to chase animals when they see them. A couple of years ago, I purchased a professionally installed wired pet containment system and trained my dogs to remain in the yard. Unfortunately, the instinct to chase animals often overtook them, and they would bolt through the wired containment field, suffer the correction, but keep running so that they would quickly get beyond the correction field radius, and the the correction would stop. I had the installer come out 3 times for professional training sessions and to increase the correction levels, and the dogs would pass with flying colors. Yet they continued to run through the correction field when I would let them out into the yard later. Finally I gave up, worked out a deal with the company from whom I purchased the fence so that I only had to make a partial payment, and returned the collars and transmitter.

Since the dogs are trained to respond to sound and static corrections, I currently let them out with remote training collars on and manually correct them if they breach the boundaries of the yard. That way, they cannot simply run until the correction stops since I can continue to correct them. They always come back to the middle of the yard after a few seconds, responding to even the lowest correction setting. My yard is not very big, probably 60′ X 40′, but I’m trying to find a way to contain my dogs without having to sit by the window watching them. They love to run and play outside, so I like to leave them out for 10 – 20 minutes, but that’s hard to do when I have to watch them.

My question is whether or not the Havahart wireless system would continue to correct the dogs when they run beyond the boundaries. If it does, they would respond to it after a few seconds and would return to the yard. If the correction cuts out, though, like with the wired system, I won’t waste my money trying a new system. Thanks in advance for your help, and for all of the information you provide.

ADMIN – Hi Dave,

The wireless units do continue to correct the dog even once they have gone through the boundary. Usually for about 30 seconds, after which time the collar time-out kicks in as a safety feature.

It will be easier because it sounds like the dogs are at least partially trained. But, I suspect with your having a small yard, the Havahart Custom will have some drawbacks, most notably it will remove at least a 5-10 foot margin all along the boundaries because of the boundary wobble issue.

You might also want to retry a wired fence. You can just staple the wire down if you are concerned it does not work. Using our training protocol, particularly the third step where you introduce temptations and simulate off leash by dropping the leash, we usually get good results – even in situation where professional trainers have failed. If you have a remote trainer handy, you can even supplement the dog fence to make running through impossible in the training phase. The key is for the dogs to never thing that running is a possibility.

Kristin May 31, 2011 at 11:33 pm

Read through most of the comments above, but did not see anything said regarding moles & ground squirrels. Is that a concern for a wired system? Was going for the wireless, but now realize that the circle perimeter might cut off their already known area and don’t want to confuse them. We, of course, need something super reliable. We have a Belgian Sheepdog/chow mix over 70 lbs who is new to our family so don’t know how he will react when he sees his first deer, but I can tell you he is crazy about chasing squirrels, rabbits, lizards etc. We also have a 17 lb Havanese. Is there a system that allows you to place stakes around your property which we could attach sensors to? Please help me narrow my options down. Thanks P.S. We only need about 1/4 acre of coverage.

ADMIN – Hi Kristin,

With wired dog fences, you can get the ocassional break with a critter chewing through the wire. If there are areas where you are particularly concerned, you can place the wire in a protective conduit (old water hose pipe, or sprinkler system conduit) or use the thicker 14 gauge wire which is stronger and has a thicker layer of insulation.

Where you are particularly concerned about some trigger getting the dog in a high energy state where they may disregard the boundary rules, it is good to work this into the training. We usually do this in Step Three of the training, and we will expose the dog to things we know get them excited so they learn the lesson that they have to obey the boundary rules regardless of what is tempting them.

The new Havahart Custom lets you have a completely customized layout with a wireless system. You don’t use stakes, instead you walk around the perimeter with the controller and the system remembers your layout.

A good wired system with your two dogs would be the PetSafe Stubborn Dog Fence. With that much difference in size, the PetSafe systems are good because they let you mix-and-match collars. Use the included collar with the larger dog, and use an extra PetSafe Deluxe Dog Fence collar with the smaller Havanese.

ian May 26, 2011 at 6:32 pm

Hi, i have a little border collie who is not much of a problem but i also have a big malalute husky. He loves to chase deer, elk and moose. What system can i use to contain them both especially him as his prey drive is pretty strong.

ADMIN – Hi Ian,

These electronic containment systems work well with Alaskan Malamutes and Huskies, because while stubborn they are also very motivated to avoid the correction. They tend to respond without the need for a lot of correction. The tricky thing with those dogs is to get the collar fitted so that the prongs are correctly contacting the skin – so you need to thin out the hair around the neck and take care when placing the collar on the dog.

If you are looking at wireless systems, the Havahart Radial is the best of the lot and would work well with those two dogs.

For a wired system with a Border Collie and a Husky, the Innotek IUC-4100 would be a good choice. The collar includes long prongs and has a test mode that lets you know if the collar is properly fitted – good since you have two long hair dogs. It does not have independent correction, which means both dogs will need to be on the same correction level or you need to wrap a resistor around one of the collars – I would suspect that this will not be necessary, both those dogs sound like they would be a medium.

The PetSafe Stubborn would also be a good choice, it would let you have independent correction levels for each dog. The PetSafe does not have the long prongs included in the box, (they are available for $15 through PetSafe) It is not rechargeable and is a little bigger, but is also reliable.

Cheryl & Jeff May 17, 2011 at 3:14 pm

Would these wireless systems work well for 2 daschunds?

ADMIN – Hi Cheryl & Jeff,

Training dachshunds on a dog fence is no big deal. With the wireless systems the collars are a lot bigger than the wired systems, so you can only use them with bigger dogs. So with smaller Daschunds, you may be better off with a smaller wired collar. Our rule of thumb is that dogs are 20lbs are too small for the wireless collars.

All the wireless systems can handle two dogs.

WaynokaStarr May 17, 2011 at 8:53 am

Hi. I’m renting a house in Maryland. I have a few questions about whether you think the Havahart Wireless System will work in my situation. My dog is a chow-chow/shepherd mix, about 55 pounds. She extremely smart, and I believe she would train very quickly (she’s strictly outside but is already used to a physical electric fence).

Metal: There is an existing chain link fence running one side of the property that the wireless fence would need to overlap in order to give her the space in my yard that I would like to give her. Also, the house has very thin sheet-metal studs.

Trees: The majority of the yard is cleared, but there are a few trees within the yard and it is surrounded by woods.

Slope: There is a slight slope to the yard, but it is not too steep. The backyard is level with the basement, whereas the front is about 1/2 a floor higher (steps at the front porch to go into house at the first floor). I consider it to be a gradual incline, but I didn’t know if this would be too much for the system.

Batteries: Lastly, she’s a strictly outside dog, and I’ve never really dealt with collars that had batteries since she’s always had a physical electric fence. Is this something that I’ll have to do daily? If not, what frequency should I anticipate for dealing with the collar?

Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

ADMIN – Hi Waynoka,

Metal: Chain link fences are not a problem. It is wide sheets of metal that are a problem. Similarly, metal studs are not a problem.

Trees: The occasional tree is fine. Once you get to the woods, the signal will not be able to penetrate past the trees. So, you need to have a boundary that is before the start of the woods.

Slope: As a rule of thumb, the wireless systems work with a slope that allows line of site. So a slight slope is fine, but if you can’t see down the slope it is too steep.

Batteries: The Havahart systems require the collar to be recharged every 2-3 days. They Havaharts two batteries so you can have one battery charging while the second is in use.

Ed Smallwood May 14, 2011 at 5:08 pm

I am considering purchasing the Havahart Wireless System. I have a 90 lb Old English Sheepdog and a 12 lb Shih Tzu. I know the collar will be fine for the Sheepdog, but what about the Shih Tzu? Thanks you.

ADMIN – Hi Ed,

Unfortunately all the collars from the current wireless dog fence systems will be much too big for the Shih Tzu. They don’t work well with any dogs under 20lbs because they are too big and heavy for a little dog. There are really only two good options for small dogs: (1) a wired system, (2) tying the small dog to the big dog.

Ina May 11, 2011 at 7:46 pm

We have two dogs-Stafforshire terrier and Jack Russel, 30 and 40 pounds(8 and 9 years old). We recently moved to a new property and need to install a fence system. The area that we want to secure to allow the dogs to move around freely is about .25 acres. It will at the rear of the house,of the porch.They have never been exposed to an electric fence system. We are not sure if this will work? Please give your advice. Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Ina,

Training older dogs is no big deal. You just need to invest the time in training for the first two weeks. With the training, you will be very pleased with the results.

Your are in their middle years, but with older dogs it is a good idea to test their hearing before starting the training (just clap behind them and see if they turn their head). A few older dogs have lost hearing and owners aren’t aware of it because the dogs have developed very good coping strategies. If the dogs have lost hearing we want to use a collar that vibrates (because they can’t hear the warning beep)

With a small area, just in the rear of the house, I would suggest a wired system like the Innotek IUC-4100.

Leanne May 8, 2011 at 12:04 am

Hi! I have a 4 pound yorkie poo who darts out the door when we open it. We have the lap dog innotek collar for behavior in the house and she needs the 3rd level to stop naughty behavior. Could we go with a wireless fence even though they state 8 pounds and up? Can the collar be made smaller to fit her? Help! We don’t want to lose her!

ADMIN – Hi Leanne,

The wireless fence collars are all going to be too big for a Yorkie Poo, they will weigh her down like a boat anchor! (Although this might be part of the solution!)

Unfortunately none of the wireless collars make much sense for dogs under 20lbs. (I know some of the manufacturers say you can go down to 8lbs, but we find this wishful thinking)

The only collar that would be small enough would be the PetSafe Little Dog (a wired system).

PS – if all you need help with is stopping the dog bolting through the door, you could also consider getting a PetSafe Indoor Pod and a PetSafe Little Dog collar.

Melissa May 1, 2011 at 7:32 pm

I have a 3 yr springer pointer mix and a 6 mth old german shorthaired pointer. We have a large are at home for the dogs and they are good on obedience….the 6 mth old is still learning but we are getting there. My problem is we are avid campers and tripping over yard leashes is a problem. I am looking for a system that I can set up at home to train consistently and then take the system with me on weekends to our camper. We are on a permanent site so it will be consistent…I figured training would have to start at home and I can work with them on a small area in our yard for them to learn the warning signals. Since I need portable the wireless system would be best. Considering this is going to be a small camping area which system would you recommend….also considering this is a camper that it will be plugged into. Thank you

ADMIN – Hi Melissa,

Since you have the ability to plug it in, the Havahart Radial would be your best bet. These Havahart wireless systems are the best in terms of maintaining a stable boundary which is important for training. The Havahart custom would probably be out unless you have an extremely large camper, because it requires four base station on each corner of the home, and they need to have significant separation.

Is your camper metal? If so, that is going to cause a problem for wireless systems. Our options would then be restricted to using a wired system and stapling down a temporary perimeter every time you went to your site.

Bryan May 1, 2011 at 1:34 pm

I am in the process of buying a house with 4 acres of land. After reading the information on your website, I believe I am going to purchase the Havahart custom wireless fence to contain my 2 German Shepherds. The one question I have is regarding the exclusion zones. I would prefer the dogs not get onto our porch or patio area, but since they are not at least 20 feet away from the base, would it be possible to place the exclusion zone around the whole house as long as it meets the requirements of being at least 20 feet away from the base and boundary fence? Thanks for all the information your website provides, and I’m excited to experience with the Havahart custom Wireless fence once the purchase of this house is complete…

ADMIN – Hi Bryan,

That would work, but it would also stop the dogs coming in and out of the entire house which would be a problem if they were house dogs.

Another idea would be to put a long thin exclusion on the outside of the porch/patio area so the dogs could not access the porch/patio, even though the exclusion zone did not cover the porch/patio area itself.

A. Hill April 29, 2011 at 10:52 am

I’ve been doing a lot of researching before I decide on a fencing system for my very obedient, 30lb dog. Your site is a wonderful resource.

Conventional fencing isn’t an option for us, partly because we have a sort of unspoken sharing system with our neighbors, which enlarges all of our backyard space and a fence would mess up that excellent arrangement. Currently, my dog’s fence consists of me, sitting out with a book or project, while she roams around the 3 adjoined backyards belonging to us and our neighbors to either side. The total area is probably less than 1/2 acre, in a long strip of grassy, fairly flat ground, surrounded by, but not interrupted by trees, and noone will mind if we put in a wireless fence that encompasses our yard plus part of the other 2 yards.

The problem I think I’m seeing after reading all the posts here, is with the fact that there are two levels to our property, with the front half (where the house sits) being divided from the rear half by a ten foot concrete retaining wall, with steps leading down into the backyard.

If you can, I would really appreciate if you would help me understand how the signal field is shaped (I’m having trouble visualizing it, because in one post you describe it as a “flat trajectory” but you also keep reiterating that metal roofing gives trouble, which to me sounds like the signal field is more spherical or global, than flat) and how it operates within an environment like ours. I’m just curious.

There are several reasons it would be more expedient to use the wireless system if possible in our situation, but from what I’ve read here it sounds like we’re not good candidates for it because of our bi-leveled property. What do you think?

A. Hill

ADMIN – Hi A. Hill,

Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, it is not a flat trajectory. The transmitter for the PetSafe Wireless transmits the signal as a dome. Thus, transmitting the signal upward which will have issues with the roof. I think PetSafe developed the signal as a dome just in case dogs ever learned how to fly. :)

In terms of how recommendation, we provide a perfect scenario idea, but we cannot actually know if it will work or not work on any specific property. So, we always follow up our recommendations with telling customers the best way to know is to give it a try and test it on your property. We offer 30 day no hassle returns starting from the day your fence is delivered, so if it doesn’t work you can return for a full refund minus the cost of return shipping.

Dawn April 25, 2011 at 1:33 pm

Once again, thanks for all your amazing knowledge, and sharing.

I’m pretty set on going with a wired system, but had one left over curiosity from looking into the wireless (finalized from the following concern). You make mention at the top of your wireless fence reviews that the correction can be “slow to respond,” giving the correction “too late.” This seems to be a separate problem from the boundary wobble and retreat response, but didn’t seem to be measured with the same testing procedures. Do you have any information on how often this is a problem? What exactly is this problem coming from–signal strength? Any way to increase/decrease the potential for this happening?

Many thanks!

Admin-Hi Dawn

1. The collar response time happens regularly, while boundary wobble is random.

2. Not really, the controllable measures are limited to the shape and grade of your land. How many trees you may have and how many walls the signal has to travel through. If you have separate buildings on your property that the signal will need to travel through this could affect the signal also. All of these are significant factors that will determine the overall consistency and functionality of the fence on your property

Rhonda April 24, 2011 at 4:14 pm

We have two small dogs, 1 dog is 11 pounds and the other is around 14 pounds. We are building a cottage on one acre where we have no electricity available, other than a generator. We would like a wireless system, if possible, but also need one where the base unit doesn’t need to be plugged in, but rather uses batteries. The Perimeter rechargeable wireless one sounded great, until I read the not-so-great reviews on it. The 11 pounder doesn’t stray very far, so I’m not really sure we even need it for her, but the 14 pound dog often heads off for “adventures” I’d really rather she not take! :) Any suggestions for a containment system that would work for us?

Admin- Hi Rhonda,

In your situation a wireless system probably would not be the best option. The best system is going to be a system that has a battery back up feature. A great system for your 14-pound dog will be the Innotek IUC-4100. You will be able to plug the system into the generator or use the battery back-up feature that can operate the system for 40 hours on battery power only.

Kerri Hart April 23, 2011 at 1:54 pm

I have a fenced back yard that my dogs (20 and 70lbs) keep digging out of. The yard is somewhat U-shaped and very large (about 185′ x 80′). I dread the thought of installing a wired fence, and our house is on the market. Do you think the Havahart Radial Wireless would be a good choice, or is wired my best option?


Admin- Hi Kerri,

With the Havahart Radial fence the transmitter will have to be mount inside your house on an outside wall. From this point where the transmitter is mounted the signal would transmit in a circler pattern. Therefore, you could cut off a lot of your yard or include areas you do not wish for the dogs to roam. The only possible way you can get your whole rectangular shape yard contained will either be a wired fence or the Havahart Custom shape wireless fence.

A good-wired fence for your two dogs would be the PetSafe Deluxe system. You would be able to attach the wire to the stationary fence and stop most of your containment issue almost instantly.

A good Wireless fence would be the Havahart Custom shape fence. You will be able to configure the shape of the containment area to fit your needs.

Amanda April 22, 2011 at 10:43 pm

We are wanting to do the invisible fence for our yard. It’s approx 2 acres, no trees, no hills, there will be a metal building within a year, but otherwise pretty open. We have a 117lb German Shepard who is extremly calm and a 8lb weeine dog that is very energetic and playful. We like the ease of the wireless, but it doesn’t sound to dependable. Which system do you suggest (without spending a small fortune)
Thank you-Amanda

ADMIN – Hi Amanda,

Once you add the metal building to the property, it will create issues with the fence functioning properly. Also, none of the wireless fence collars will work on a 8 lb dog.

For your scenario, I’d recommend the PetSafe Little Dog fence and add in a PetSafe Deluxe collar for your Shepherd. To cover 2 acres, you’ll need to bundle in an additional 1,000 feet of wire.

Cindy April 22, 2011 at 10:26 am

We live on a farm with a country road that is seeing more traffic due to the addition of a golf course on our road. Our dogs, Heeler and Labradoodle, are inside pets but go to the barn with us for chores. Unfortunately, if a car slows down on the road in front of our home, they run out to visit. This has created a problem as it seems everyone slows down as they drive by. Is there a system, wireless or otherwise, that can be run straight across the front of the yard (and U drive) approx. 200 ft., without running it around the whole outside of the farm? Our dogs don’t go through a pasture onto the road, only through the front yard and U drive. I think they’ve had too many run-ins with electric fencing and prefer to avoid the pastures, so they are contained with the exception of straight out the front yard/driveway. I am also wondering if this same fencing could be portable enough for us to pick up and take with us camping (to lay on the ground and circle our trailer), to contain our dogs around our campsite. Am I expecting too much? And, two collars, one system.

ADMIN – Hi Cindy,

Unfortunately, a wireless fence will not be able to accomplish your goal of creating a single-sided boundary along the road. However, a wireless fence will allow you to take it with you camping.

If you want to create a single-sided boundary along the road, you’ll need to go with a wired fence. What is weight and temperament of your heeler and labradoodle?

Brad April 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm

I have a 3 year old energetic Black Lab and live on a 7 acre site. Some wooded, while the rest is pretty open, it also has 2 steel buildings some grain bins,and the house has asphalt shingles on it. I would also add that I do rent and don’t want to sink a large sum of money into a system. What would the best system for my situation ? Thank you. Brad.

ADMIN – Hi Brad,

With metal buildings, you probably want to use a wired system because wireless will have a lot of problems in the areas around the metal. For a Labrador, a good inexpensive wired system that can handle 7 acres would be the SportDog SDF-100A.

Tony April 18, 2011 at 3:56 pm

I have a 100 lb pure muscle american bulldog. He’s very obedient in the house, but outdoors when he see’s another dog he charges them to play with but it always ends up in a fight. I keep him on a chain now with a 1 inch nylon colar, when he see’s another dog he charges so fast and hard he snapps the colar and chain. Once the chain snapped back and wrapped around a vent on my roof. I also have a training colar (pet safe-large dog)that works to break up fights, he comes right back to me on a #3 setting. I can’t use a metal chain colar with the training colar. The other day he saw a cat, ran busted the chain and ignored the shock colar. My concern is, will one of the invesible fences work. HELP, I LOVE THIS DOG.

ADMIN – Hi Tony,

If he completely ignored the training collar during a chase, I’m not confident he won’t breach a dog fence boundary. Have tried increasing the training collar correction strength to see if he’ll respond on higher levels?

The Stubborn Dog Fence is the only fence I’d even recommend for your bulldog. If any fence will possibly work, it will be this fence, because it has the highest correction levels of any fence on the market.

Tess Nasi April 18, 2011 at 11:15 am

Hello. I recently purchased the Pet Safe Wireless System. I am concerned after reading the manual that our vehicles in the yard will cause my puppy to get a correction. Is this true? We want her to be able to run in the entire yard with our children, and our vehicles are parked in our yard. I also live on a hill with large pines and oaks. Will this system work, or should I return it? Thanks for your time.

ADMIN – Hi Tess,

It’s possible. You can test this with the collars. If you do not receive any corrections while walking the collars around the cars, then you’ll be okay. Unfortunately, the only way you can know if the fence will work on your property is to test it on your property. Every wireless fence will work a respond a little differently to each persons land and property.

Melinda April 15, 2011 at 9:51 pm

I have a hard headed hound mix dog that is about 50lbs or so. We have a city 3/4 acre yard that we would like to add an invisible fence to so that we can let him out with out having to worry about him running out into our road because when he is not on his lead he runs hard and doesn’t realize that the road is dangerous. When he is on his lead he doesn’t run like that even thought it will reach most of thee road.
What kind of fence do you suggest? I really don’t know the difference between “wired” vs. “wireless” in this fashion.

ADMIN – Hi Melinda,

For a hound mix with a strong prey drive, I recommend the PetSafe Stubborn Fence. The difference between wired and wireless is that for a wired system, you will create a boundary using 20 gauge wire that must start and end at the wall transmitter. The system works when the wire is in a complete loop. For you property, you’ll need to buy an additional roll of 500 feet of wire to cover your 3/4 acre yard.

mitch April 14, 2011 at 3:38 pm

i have a farm situation and want to cover approx 2 acres and have 5 dogs. i realize the havahart covers the biggest area, but is limited to 2 collars. we might could manage just containing the 2 worst roamers. i previously had a petsafe wired fence, but if seemed to lose it’s efficacy after several lightening strikes which are fairly common here. are new wired systems less prone to lightening, or do i just need to do a better job on the front end of grounding the system. is it ok to run wired system along a barbwire fence? or is this asking for trouble ( lightening)?

ADMIN – Hi Mitch,

Well, the wired systems are still just as prone to lightning as you experienced. Did you have a lightning protector on your previous system? We do recommend always using them.

Running wire on a barbed wire fence is something many customers currently do. However, it sounds like it would be asking for trouble with lightning and considering your past experience may not be a good idea.

fdriscollsbar April 13, 2011 at 4:04 pm

I am confused about your reviews of wireless fences. In one area you say that Havahart only gave a 40 ft coverage while it says it gives a 400 ft. In the comparison of the 3 systems you list the Havahart most highly of the 3. I am getting a new dog in a week and already have another and am considering purchasing a wireless system. I would like to cover at least .5 acre but prefer to go up to .75. What do you recommend?

ADMIN – Hi there,

The Havahart will reliably go up to 200 feet in radius which equals around 2 acres. You’ll be fine going with this fence.

Teddy Grove April 10, 2011 at 7:36 pm

My house is situated near the edge of boundary – there is approximately 25 ft before the drop-off slope of approximately 30 degrees begin. How will this affect reception? The house is two storey and would the elevation of the transmitter affect reception if he decided to go down the slope? I had one with a wire aerial but it drove me nuts as the deer would break the connection or break the insulation. The insulation breaks drove me nuts as it was well nigh impossible to find.

ADMIN – Hi Teddy,

My intuition is that with a 30 degree slope the reception would be bad or non-existent if you put the boundary beyond the slope. If you wanted to go wireless, then you woudl want to keep the boundary at least five feet before the drop-off.

Sean April 10, 2011 at 6:11 pm

My Pleasure … I was really bummed it didn’t work as hyped !!! Wired going in Tuesday … BTW …. Very useful info here … Comments reading Newest to Oldest would be better … Thanks again … Sean

Sean April 10, 2011 at 5:17 pm

Custom-Shape Havahart Wireless Dog Fence: This system is NOT ready for prime time !
Got it this week … 4/7/2011. Spent hours setting it up and walking the property to create perimeters, Moving the transmitters to different locations and reprogramming. Gave up and packed it all in the box and got a return shipping label this morning … support line blamed appliances, mirrors, gutters and trees … Not getting rid of those, so the system is going back … The boundaries were extremely inconsistent and the collar would tone in the middle of the yard. I never even put the collar on the dog … I had high hopes and waited for months for this system … I couldn’t be more disappointed … Wait for a gps based system or dramatic improvements to this before you spend $800. Wired system going in on Tuesday.

This may work if you live in a thatched hut on a prairie but it definitely did not work on my 1 acre flat triangle with traditional home, barn and trees ….

Regards … Sean

ADMIN – Hi Sean,

Thanks for the early review of the Havahart Custom. The issues you describe are typical of wireless systems. They tend to like some people’s house and dislike others with seemingly no rhyme nor reason. Our experience has been that if they don’t work in the first hour they are never going to work in your location. All that stuff about moving stuff around never seems to work for us either.

Wired always works better, so if that is an option that is the direction we prefer to take.

FYI – GPS systems should not be sued for containment, since they rely on satellites miles away from your dog they are much more prone to interference, have more variable boundaries and are slower to respond to the dog’s movement. GPS systems are useful for locating a lost dog, but should never be used for containment.

Jeff April 3, 2011 at 11:08 am

Havahart sound perfect for our 8-acre home in the woods. My question is, if the wireless signal can’t make it around trees, which we are blessed with, how does it make it out of our home, which is covered in brick on all 4-sides?



ADMIN – Hi Jeff,

The largest boundary we found to work with Havahart is around 2 acres. In terms of barriers, the more walls and trees the signal must travel through the weaker the signal will be on that side of the fence. This is also the reason why the wall transmitter must be installed on a wall facing the outside. You cannot install it on an interior wall with much luck.

Brian March 29, 2011 at 4:30 pm

We have had the Havahart Radial Wireless fence for around a month. Everyday I would have to unplug the controller unit and re-add the collar. This of course is very inconvenient. Technical support just informed that it is happening because we have a satellite dish. They said that they are working on fixing the problem for future models but my only fix is to unplug the controller everyday and re-add the collar. I’ve decided to return it instead. Has anyone heard of this problem with the other brands?

ADMIN – Hi Brian,

We were not aware of that issue, thanks for sharing it. I have not heard of satellite dishes interfering with any of the other wireless systems (nor wired systems).

Dawn March 25, 2011 at 4:46 pm

Hi, I was wondering what makes it so that the Havahart system cannot support more than two collars? I am trying to understand if there are any potential concerns with the Petsafe system being able to successfully support more than two? And can any of these fence collars, wired or wireless, be used with other brands? Or does each collar only work with its brand? Thank you! Dawn

ADMIN – Hi Dawn,

The reason that both the Havahart and the Perimeter systems cannot support more than two collars is that there is two-way communication between the base staiton and the collars. The base stations talk to the collars, and the collars answer back. The base stations are only powerful enough to talk to two collars at the same time.

The PetSafe systems is a little ‘dumber’. The base station just broadcasts a one-way message and the collars do not talk back. Since the base station does not need to listen to any of the collars, it can support an infinite number of collars.

All the wireless systems can only work with their own system collars. Among the wired systems, the Innotek IUC-4100, IUC-5100 and SD-2100 are intercompatible. And the PetSafe Little Dog, PetSafe Stubborn Dog, PetSafe Deluxe, and SportDog SDF-100A are intercompatible.

Robert March 25, 2011 at 11:56 am

I am considering the Haveaheart Brand. The lot is open and slightly sloping to the woods and is longer (150ft than it is wide (500ft) until the wood lines. My questions are:
(1) f the radius extends into the woods, what happens to the signal? Does it dissipate completely or just behind a tree? (ie, if the dog goes behind tree and out again will he get the signal?
(2) Or do I just make the perimeter extend to the closest treeline and no further? Many thanks for the response.
(3) I have a metal pool fence (straight up slats 6 in apart) which can be seen through on all sides. Will the signal be interfered by that?

ADMIN – Hi Robert,

(1) The signal gets blocked at the tree line and so you get a very inconsistent boundary just beyond the trees. Sometimes the dogs can go into the woods without getting the correction, and other times they will get the correction. Sometimes the correction will be delayed a few seconds, and other times it will never come.

(2) Correct, you want to avoid the issue by setting the boundary a few feet before the tree line.

(3) Metal slats aren’t a problem, sheet metal is what tends to cause problems with signal blockage

Matt K March 21, 2011 at 12:19 pm

I am curious about long term dependability of a wireless pet containment system. I purchased a Perimeter system a year ago, am on my third base/collar replacement from the company and this one quit working almost immediately after receiving it. I am not happy with the quality at all, but the technology itself is perfect for my dog and lifestyle as we travel a lot.
I see you also only have a 30 day money back guarantee, so do you do any long term testing? I am considering a havaheart wireless but don’t want to drop 300+ dollars on a product that won’t last a year. One lesson learned the hard way is enough.

ADMIN – Hi Matt,

The Havahart has only been on the market since the fall of 2010, so we don’t have any long term numbers on this fence. We have experienced a few low return rate for this fence as well. It’s currently around 4 percent. The good thing is that the Havahart is tremendously better than any of the other wireless fences on the market and if you have the Perimeter WiFi, then you’ll be much happier with the Havahart.

Stacey March 21, 2011 at 10:38 am

We are getting a new chocolate lab. We have a narrow yard and an above ground pool in our backyard. Our backyard is also lower than the front and has retaining walls on each side of the back. We’ve been looking at the Havahard Custom Wireless, however are unsure how it will suit our yard with the pool and level discrepancies. Any thoughts? We’ve also done a consult on invisible wire fencing, however are a little concerned on the 3 ft diameter from the beeping point on the side of the yard that won’t let him get through.

ADMIN – Hi Stacey,

We currently do not have the Havahart Custom wireless. At the moment, please contact Havahart directly for assistance with your install question.

Tracie March 18, 2011 at 3:19 pm

Do you know of a wireless (wifi) fence that can be used for a dog under 7 pounds? We have a deer chihuahua and would like to be able to have him outside when we are but without a lease.

Brea March 18, 2011 at 4:37 am

My husband and I bought a house on 7 acres recently and we are having a problem with our dogs running off. Our land slopes down and then slopes back up behind our house. It is also heavly wooded. Our property also backs up to a major highway. We are looking into the wireless and wire system dog fences. But I was wondering what system would you recommend for our yard. I have loooked into the Havahart custom-shape dog fence. Would that be a good one?

ADMIN – Hi Brea,

What is breed and weight or your dogs? We currently do not have the Havahart custom-shaped wireless. At the moment I recommend calling Havahart directly for information on the custom shape fence.

Dawn March 17, 2011 at 2:26 pm

What a wonderful resource, thanks for all the information you offer!

I am wondering what the process or mechanism involved is that allows the Petsafe wireless to accomodate unlimited collars, and makes the other two systems unable to? Trying to understand if there is some drawback to having multiple collars within a wirelss system.

I was also wondering if collars from different brands are transferrable?

Thanks again!

Chad C March 16, 2011 at 2:43 pm


I’m currently in the market for a wireless system for the house. I purchased the Petsafe model over a year ago after a good start the thing become more and more unreliable until I ended up having to stop using it. I’ve read up on the Havahart technology and especially your awesome reviews. I’m about to pull the trigger for the radial system, however i’m very curious about your reviews and take on the custom shape evaluation. I think the custom shape would work best for my house/yard. its more pricier but i’m willing to spend more if i knew it worked as advertised and it was reliable.

My question is: Could you please add me to the list that you describe above to Pamela?
And, roughly when do you think the review will be ready? Estimated~? (just wondering if I have enough time to wait before pulling the trigger.


Admin-Hi Chad,
We would be happy to add you to the list.

Jeff March 16, 2011 at 10:20 am

I already have a petsafe wired system that has worked very well for several years. We have recently gotten and Great dane puppy, he is 6 months old and already rather large, he seems to just walk right through the invisible barrier with no correction at all. I have tested his collar several times and it seems to work but only closer to the ground, the higher you get the less it seems to work. As that he will only get taller as he grows. What is my best solution to this? Would a wireless system be better? My other dogs have been very good about their boundries.

Admin- Hi Jeff,

You simply need to turn the boundary width on the transmitter to a higher level. This will cause the signal to become greater and the signal will be able reach a taller dog. We typically do not recommend a wireless fence. A wireless fence has several disapproving qualities such as inconsistencies in the boundary and slow reaction time.

Leigh March 11, 2011 at 4:14 pm

We have a 70 lb husky and a 7 lb chiuauwa. They both like to run. Although we live in the country our neighbors are very close on three sides and the husky likes to visit the local feed mill about a half mile away. The little one likes to run into the fields and I fear she will get lost or worse…I’ve seen eagles swoop down and take the neighbors barn cats. What would be the best containment system that would work for both dogs.

Admin- Hi, Leigh

The best system for your Husky and Chihuahua would be the PetSafe Little Dog PIG00-10773. This is the only system that will work for your 7-pound Chihuahua. You will use the included collar for the Chihuahua and bundle in a PetSafe Deluxe collar for your Husky. The PetSafe Little Dog has Independent Correction Levels; therefore, you will able to adjust the correction levels for each dog. The PetSafe system can cover up to 25 acres so this should give Husky and Chihuahua more than enough space to play.

Pamela Z March 9, 2011 at 1:32 pm

Any info on the Havahart custom shape yet? We have 1/2 acre and there are tons of big rocks in the ground so a self-installed wired fence is a little scary. We have a Havanese (10 lbs) is this a good system for little dogs? She’s still a puppy, so we have a few months if you think you will be reviewing this fence soon. Thanks!

ADMIN-Hi Pamela

Sorry Pamela, we are still in the test phase for the Havahart custom shape. If you wanted, I could add you to our list and send you more information about the product when we have full detail about it?

If your think your Havanese is going to reach a weight 15-20 pounds than havahart should work. The problem I have seen with the havahart is a dog around 10 pounds neck size is to small for the collar. Also, if your dog is over 6 months old you should not have a problem starting with the training.

If your Havanese gets to be 12 pounds or heavier I would recommend the Innotek 4100. For the first couple of days, you can put the Innotek collar on your dog (without switching the collar on) and see if the dog is Comfortable. He should be fine, but if he isn’t we can swap out the 4100 for the PetSafe Little dog. Note that if you need to trim the collar strap in order to gauge the collar on the dog, feel free to do so. I understand that there might be a problem with large rocks. The wired fence only needs to be buried about 3-4 inches deep. Also you could lay the wire on the ground and add some soil over the wire to add protection.

Jan S March 7, 2011 at 7:33 pm

I have 3 Rotties and we are moving to a house that will have 2.3 acres of open land and I would like to let them roam but still stay contained since most people are scared to death of Rotties. One is 7 years, 6 years, and 4 years old, they have mainly been kepts in pens and I would love to let the roam on our land during the day but will be put up at night. My male is rather hard headed. I also need a system that is reasonable in price. I can not place a wire fence and was wondering if a wi-fi (wireless) fence will work for this breed? Thank You

ADMIN – Hi Jan,

If you can’t run wire, then a wireless system like the Havahart wireless would be a good choice. You can set the perimeter boundary to be a circle that will cover a large chunk of your land. Large open spaces are the conditions where the wireless systems tend to work best. The Havahart has sufficient correction strength to work with Rottweilers.

Candi February 15, 2011 at 2:54 pm

Please help…We have a two story house on a little over a 2.35 acre lot. We don’t feel the dog needs full access to the full amount of acreage, but the shape of the area we would like to contain is more oval than circular. We have a slight slope for the driveway and front yard, but it is fairly flat for most of the yard. Our yard is mostly grass, but we would like our new lab to be able to access maybe 20 feet into the woods to eliminate (go potty) and be able to play with the kids in all other areas. Would the Havahart system work the best for our situation? We have thought about wired as well, but JUST installed a new driveway and would prefer not to cut into it if possible. Any advice? Thanks so much.

Admin – Hi Candi

We never recommend a wireless system over a wired system for many reasons. The shape of your property would be one. You would be limited to the spherical transmission zone from the unit and it may not reliably cover the area you want to contain. The wooded area may be an issue as well, any obstacles in the path of the signal could be an issue.
Yes, the best wireless system we offer would be the Havahart.
If you want to consider a wired system, I would recommend the Innotek IUC 4100.

Jennifer February 14, 2011 at 1:03 am

I live on 5 acres surrounded by 10 and 20 acres of woods. For many years I have been able to allow my dogs to roam freely most of the time. But now my 2 year old Newfoundland male has taken to wandering further afield, just as there is more logging and construction nearby, so I am worried. I have 5 Newfoundlands, but three are middle aged to elderly, so not prone to leave home. But my boy and his younger sister are adventurous and vulnerable.

I would be most interested in a wireless system. I have a log house atop an out of the ground concrete basement which is faced with thick rock. It is a tall house with a metal Gambrel roof. I am wondering if the roof would be a problem, since it is so high up that it would not be in the line of the electrical signal? I also have lots of trees and two other structures on my property within the zone that I would want the dogs to have access to.

Do you think I can have a wireless system? Any advice will be most appreciated!

Admin – Hi Jennifer

We rarely recommend a wireless system over a wired because by comparison, the wired systems are much more consistent and reliable. In your case with metal structuring and wooded property, I would recommend wired.
Take a look at our most recommended wired system, the Innotek 4100, a good fit for your property and your Newfoundlands.

anna February 13, 2011 at 11:46 am

We live in town on a regular size lot and are looking to keep our standard poodle from going potty in, or crossing into, our neighbors yard. We don’t have a metal roof or anything like that. I read wireless systems may have a hard time going through walls or siding. How much do I have to worry about that? I want a diameter of about 60 feet as our lot isn’t huge. Can you set the diameter?

Admin – Hi Anna

Yes, the field size is adjustable on the wireless systems. However, we never recommend a wireless system over a wired simply because the wired systems are much more consistent and reliable.
The Innotex IUC 4100 is our most popular system and would fit your property and Poodle very well. Take a look at it. http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/innotek-ultrasmart-iuc-4100/
I hope this helps you.

Nichole February 10, 2011 at 11:00 am

This website has been very informative!

We live on 1 acre and I do not want the dogs to have full access. Our house is almost dead center (asphalt shingles) but we have one side that slopes off. I would really like to use a wireless system but was wondering if the boundary can be adjusted to meet the size we want the dogs restricted to. We have a basset hound and a dachsund we need to contain as the basset’s nose tends to get her into trouble. Also, are the collars individually adjusted? The dogs are definitely two different sizes.

Thanks in advance for any info. you can provide!

Admin – Hi Nichole

We rarely recommend a wireless system. One reason being the contour of the property that you have. The systems are adjustable in that you can reduce or enlarge the boundary, but still on a flat plane out from the transmitter.
I would recommend a wired system. The Innotek IUC 4100 would be a good fit for your property as well as your basset and dachshund. The collar size is adjustable and the system has 3 levels of correction.
I hope this is of some help to you.

Jon February 9, 2011 at 11:35 pm

Havahart is advertizing the Custom-Shape Havahart® Wireless Dog Fence model #: 5144G. Do you know when you will review and carry this model?

Admin – Jon

We definitely have this on our agenda. We don’t have a date as of yet. We would be happy to add you to our list of interested customers and let you know when we have more information. Let us know.

Jen Jacks February 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm

I’m interested in the new Havahart custom boundary wireless system with exclusion areas. Any idea how long it will be before you post a review of this new system?

Admin – Hi Jen

We currently have not had the opportunity to get our hands on this fence. We also do not have a time table as to when we’ll have it available from our store. If you like, we can add you to our list of interested customers who we’ll contact when it comes available. Please let us know.

Angie Walker February 1, 2011 at 11:50 am

I have a German Shepard and I live on a large farm where we raise meat goats and my dog has decided that he likes them very much, so after looking over your reviews I have decided on looking at the Havaharrt wireless system. I do have a few questions for you I have a few small banks around the property line, will that be a problem with connection and how often will the battery need charged and how long will it take for each charge or should I look into an additional collar. Thanks Angie

ADMIN – Hi Angie,

Yes, the more barriers the Havahart will have to travel through the more issues it will potentially have. The banks are a concern. Also, the rechargeable batteries have about a 3 day charge life. The system comes with two batteries, so you can always have one on the charger and one in the collar.

Lyn Cokeley January 28, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Between the Havahart and Innotek wireless systems, which would be best for me to use? I have approx 5 acres, 3 of forest (mostly oak & maple trees) and about 2 acres in pasture. Will a wireless system work in the woods? And which system do you think would work best for me?

ADMIN – Hi Lyn,

Of the three wireless systems (PetSafe, Perimeter Technologies, and Havahart) the Havahart performs by far the best. It will work well in the open pasture area, it will not work in the wooded area. If you want to give the dog access to the woods, you will need to opt for a wired system. What breed, size, and temperament are your dogs?

Kurt Andernach January 26, 2011 at 9:10 am

Thank You for taking the time to read and answer my questions.

I life on 60 acres of forest and have 3 dogs, one of which is a Great Pyrenees/St. Bernard mix and they are known to wander until they reach a boundary, such as a fence. Of cause I don’t want to wire all 60 acres, however, I would like to enclose about 5 acres. Burying the wire is out of the question, because the ground is very rocky, but I certainly could have it on the ground and covered. During the winter at times we have 2′ of snow and when it thaws, there is also a lot of water in some areas and I wonder how it could affect the system. in case the wire gets damaged by a deer or bear, is there a way for me to detect the source of the problem? First I thought the wireless system might be the way to go, but after ready all the comments above, it sounds i am better off with an in ground system,

Again, Thank You very much for your support., Kurt.

ADMIN – Hi Kurt,

Wireless does work well with snow and has no issues with snow accumulation. The Havahart may be a good fit, but you likely wouldn’t get more than 2-3 acres. If set to cover the full area, you would not get a very good signal and you would have a very inconsistent boundary that would make training difficult.

Wired would still be our top choice. The wired systems works fine with snow and with standing water. When you get snow accumulation, you need to turn up the boundary dial to make the boundary wider to compensate for the snow. It works well up to about a foot, after that it gets less consistent and you are largely relying on the dog remembering their boundary. To allow you to have enough power to get through the snow, get a system that has a lot of spare capacity. So even though you are only doing 5 acres (2,000 feet of wire), I would use a system with a lot more capacity at least 25 acres (5,000 feet of wire) – that will give you a lot of power in reserve for getting through the snow.

JoEllen January 17, 2011 at 9:52 am

I have two dogs, one chocolate lab (9yrs) and a yellow lab (for the most part) (8 mos and quite strong and energetic). I own a little over two acres and would like to keep the dogs on our property and off the road. We just put a metal shingle roof on our two story house and we also have a large dairy barn out in the pasture also with a metal roof.
From what I am reading the wired system is my only real choice? I would rather have the convenience of the WiFi but it sounds like it will not work because of the metal shingles….? The metal roof don’t interfer with my WiFi signal in the house – why is it different?

ADMIN – Hi JoEllen,

Any large metal object will tend to block wifi signals. If for example you take your laptop and stand right behind a water heater tank you will notice a large drop-off in the signal strength.

Your wifi works in the house, because the signal does not need to pass through the roof to go from your router to your computer. But the wifi based dog fences needs to send signals outside the house, and much of the signal that would have gone out through the roof is blocked when you have a metal shingles.

Robert Noe November 23, 2010 at 5:46 pm

What a wonderful website. I am considering a dog fence and the information you provide is just what I wish was available for all types of purchases. If I do buy a dog fence I will definitely purchase it from you. Thanks,

ADMIN – Thanks Bob. Appreciate the compliment.

Jean November 17, 2010 at 12:25 am

I have two dogs. The Peekapoo-yorkie is quite well trained to stay on my property. My one year old Pug came to us untrained and is quite impetuous. Our house is up close to the road with fast moving traffic, has an attached barn, and both are covered with aluminum roofs. Here in Maine we have five months of snow cover. I would like to control the road-front and the two acres around and behind the house.

From your advice to others it seems I should install a wired system, but frequent breaks due to frost and thaw could be heart breaking. What are your recommendations?

ADMIN – Hi Jean,

With a metal roof, you definitely want to do a wired fence and avoid a wireless. What age and weight are the dogs. I am guessing they are both under 12lbs, in which case the PetSafe Little Dog would be a good choice.

The freeze and the thaw should not cause wire breaks.

AB November 14, 2010 at 9:14 pm

Great site, so informative! Several years ago, I used the Petsafe Wireless for my very obedient Lab. Unfortunately, it seemed to have some strange interference in the house, and for no reason the collar would start beeping when he was inside. Obviously this was rather distressing for my dog. It seemed like it was either the television or my wireless internet, but it was random so I never knew for sure.
Has has the technology in the Havehart improved over the Petsafe system? Have you heard of this happening before? I just added an older Corgi to the mix and am looking into all wireless/wired fencing options. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Admin – Hi AB,

The older wireless system are prone to losing the connection between base station and the collar and when they do that they can correct the dog even when they are not inside the perimeter. The wireless collars randomly beep is simply these dropout. Interference with electronics is rare, and when it happens it is usually consistent. e.g. Every time I turn on the TV to watch Matlock the collars start beeping. My guess, is the collar was just randomly loosing contact with the base station.

The Havahart is much better about maintaining contact between base station and collar. And the Havahart doesn’t correct the dog simply because it has lost the connection. We have been getting a great response from Havahart customers in a way we never did from the PetSafe Wireless and the Perimeter Wifi. If you want to give it a try and are concerned about interference, install it and put the collars on the dog in beep-only mode for a few days. That way you can tell if you are randomly getting false alarm about the house.

Lisa November 9, 2010 at 1:12 pm

We recently experienced a situation where a neighbor was scared by my boxer and threatened to shoot her – I think this is mostly because he thought she was a pit bull. She has roamed free with other dogs in the neighborhood on this private road for approximately 8 years on numerous occasions. This is my parents property and they do not have a fence. I am looking into the best way to contain her while still giving her the freedom to run around. I was initially thinking an underground system but it will need to cross a driveway and a porch and also allow her access inside the garage. I’m wondering if a wireless system would be better. The area is approximately 10,000 sq ft. Part of my concern is she will only be exposed to this approximately 2 times a month and I want to minimize the confusion. Could you make a suggestion? Thank you!

ADMIN – Hi Lisa,

A wired fence is going to work better and be easier to train the dog. Wireless is getting better, the New Havahart Wireless is very good, but if you can do a wired fence it is still the better choice. For a Pitbull, a PetSafe Stubborn would be a good choice, if you wanted to do wireless the Havahart Wireless would be a good choice.

Training a dog on a vacation home works. But, if the dog has never experienced a dog fence before, you want at least two straight weeks for the dog to learn the system the first time round. If it is just a day or two every month, the dog will have a hard time learning the system unless you have that long period of training up-front.

KS November 7, 2010 at 7:16 pm

My dog is destroying our back door and garage door during thunderstorms. How can we keep Scout, Border Collie, away from the doors? One is in a garage where he sleeps and the other one on a small deck.


To keep dogs away from the an area you can use the wireless indoor pods or wireless outdoor pods. But, I think you may need to do a bit of additional training to keep them from trying to escape during thunderstorms.

Thunderstorms are tricky. Usually when a dog is at the point of destroying a door during a thunderstorm, they are in such a frenzy, that the correction from a dog fence is just going to add to the fear. I would also look into some basic training to try and see if we can get the dog over his fear.

One good technique is to desensitize the dog by playing a recording of thunder starting at low volumes. Play it at all kinds of random times, particularly when the dog is happy (just after exercise, during meals, while playing, etc). As the dog become desensitized, turn up the volume!.

Kodi Roberts November 4, 2010 at 2:14 pm

We have 3 acres we would like to fence in our 3 dogs. Should I go with a wireless system or would a wire system be better? We have a cable fence around our property and they are able to get out. We have a boxer, bull mastiff, and a blue healer. They are the sweetest dogs, but my neighbors are terrified of their size. Our boxer got out yesterday and our neighbor has threatened to shoot our dog if he does this again. I need something fast. Also, can I order three collars for each dog? Thanks, Kodi and Amy Roberts

Admin – Hi Kodi & Amy,

A wired system is going to work much better, because it creates more consistent boundaries, making it easy to train the dogs. It will be really easy to install since you already have a cable fence in place. You can just attach the boundary wire to the cable fence, using zip ties or something similar.

The wired systems can be ordered with as many collars as you need. The Havahart and Perimeter Wifi can both only handle two collars. The Petsafe wireless can have an unlimited number of collars (but can only do 1/2 an acres)

John November 1, 2010 at 12:39 pm

I have the Inotek in-ground system and it has worked rather well over the past 5 years. However, lately I have been having a problem with a bad connection, somewhere along the line. I have the RF Modulator from Radio Shack and have gone around the perimeter fence numerous times with no luck finding the break in the line. In the past I have had no problem finding breaks, about 4 times so far, but not this time. Do you have any recommendations other than installing a new perimeter fence?

ADMIN – Hi John,

Take a look at the Installation section of our website and you will find a few other techniques for finding break in wire based systems. There are a few other tricks you can use like hooking up only half the system to the RF choke, or using a test wire.

Sandi October 30, 2010 at 11:45 am

I live on a farm and would like to wirelessly contain my dog when I’m not available to supervise. When I’m available, I want the dog to be able to join me all over the farm. Will this be really confusing to the dog? If not, would it be better to remove the collar or simply turn off the device? Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Sandi,

You can easily teach the dog to walk through the boundary when you give them permission. I would wait for a few weeks to teach this to the dog because it can be confusing at first. But once the dog has had a few weeks to learn the system and is confident in the boundaries, you can start to teach them that there is an exception, that they can cross on your instruction. (If you need to get the dog across boundary in the first few weeks I would carry or drive them over the boundary.) We usually set up a routine to teach dogs when it is okay to cross. You can get a lot more details on this in the Training Section of the website. (http://www.dogfencediy.com/maintenance/walking-dog/)

I prefer to remove the collar. That gives a clear signal to both you and the dog when they can safely cross. I find when I just turn off the base station, then I often forget if it is on or off, and the dog also gets confused if it is on or off. It is not an issue for you on a farm, but for people living in towns, you want to avoid taking your dog off your property with the collar on, because it can get accidentally triggered by other people’s dog fences.

Melinda October 28, 2010 at 9:29 pm

My entire 5 acres is already fenced, however, the driveway is not. Is there any way we can “invisibly” block off the driveway so that my dogs won’t follow me out to the road?

ADMIN – Hi Melinda,

If you are just blocking a driveway, instead of doing a full system – why not use an outdoor pod. You can run 100 ft or wire off this pod, which you can use to create a small loop across your driveway (crossing the driveway, then doubling back on yourself six feet apart). The pod will be a lot cheaper and easier to install than a full system.

Michelle October 24, 2010 at 4:26 pm

We have a tin roof on our home. Will this system work with this? I read somewhere that it was an issue and now I can’t find that information. Also does the size of the dog matter. I have a great dane puppy that is now 75 lbs at 7 months old. Help!

ADMIN – Hi Michelle,

The wireless systems work really poorly where you have a tin roof. The metal tends to block the signal, so it doesn’t get out of the house very well. You will have to use a wired system (or get a new roof!).

That is some puppy! With larger dogs, consider using a stronger system like the PetSafe stubborn. Although, where the dog is a docile breed like a great dane, that really is not necessary.

Doreen September 28, 2010 at 6:16 am

Can you recommend an electric fence wired or wireless that does not need to be looped. I have a very small yard which is fully enclosed with traditional fencing. My problem is my terrier will dart out when the gate is opened. There is not sufficient room between my house and my side boundary for electric fence (walking room only). I’m looking for something electric that can go across my gateway that will send out a signal if my dog attempts to go thru the opening.
I’d appreciate anything you can recommend.

ADMIN – Hi Doreen,

I recommend the Pawz Away Outdoor Rock and Collar Set. You can set it up at the gate and it will create a wireless, circular boundary that will keep you dog from running through your gate. Here’s where you can locate the Rock on our site: http://dogfencediy.com/store/accessories/rock.html

Laura L September 24, 2010 at 7:04 pm

Good evening, I am interested in purchasing the Havahart system and am curious as to what type of testing you conducted and under what conditions. I live in the Midwest, on a flat 10 acres with few trees. Are conditions similar or were obstacles included still achieving good results? Thank you for your help! Laura

ADMIN – Hi Laura,

Obstacles were included in our testing. We tested in two different situations, the first with lots of man made obstacles (walls, furniture, etc) and the second with more natural obstacles (trees, shrubs, and a gentle slope). We took the average of those two situations.

The Havahart should do well in the flat terrain of the mid-west. While the Havahart claims to be able to do 10 acres, I think you would be better off, enclosing just 5 acres and having a more accurate boundary – the bigger you set up the boundary the more you sacrifice in terms of boundary accuracy.

Linda June 14, 2010 at 1:20 am

I am also interested in a review of Havahart, in particular, the custom shape wireless model available sometime in June. Need a system asap!

ADMIN – Hi Linda,

We are also looking forward to taking a look. We will let you know as soon as we get it into testing.

Joan May 14, 2010 at 4:41 pm

I am also interested in what you think of the Havahart wireless systems. I have 2 small dogs and would rather go the wireless route. I like the rechargable batteries for the collar also. The small dog inground doesn’t have this.

carina lynch March 9, 2010 at 5:47 pm

I am in France, which operates on 220v. Can I use your fences here? I believe they are 110v? thanks for your help.

ADMIN – Hi Carina,

None of the wireless fences are available in 220V. We have the wired Dogtra EF-3000 available in a 220v European system, email your address for shipping costs. All other systems on this site are for North American use and are 110V. PetSafe and Innotek do produce European versions of their products that work on 220V, but you will have to try local retailers to get them.

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