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		<title>By: marla</title>
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		<dc:creator>marla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.  I recently bought a house that has an invisible fence system.  do pet safe collars work with this system?

ADMIN - Hi Marla,

The PetSafe collars will not work with an invisible system, unless you also switch out the base station.  For an invisible fence dog containment system, you either need to use an Invisible Fence collar, or one of the Invisible Fence compatible collars made by Perimeter systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  I recently bought a house that has an invisible fence system.  do pet safe collars work with this system?</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Marla,</p>
<p>The PetSafe collars will not work with an invisible system, unless you also switch out the base station.  For an invisible fence dog containment system, you either need to use an Invisible Fence collar, or one of the Invisible Fence compatible collars made by Perimeter systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a fenced in back yard where I keep my dogs. One is a lab and she does not leave the yard unless the other one does. The other dog is a boxer who in the last 6 weeks in his efforts to escape the yard has dug holes, eaten wood, bent my metal gate, pulled the fence away from the polls, moved concrete blocks, and last night he pawed through sheet metal.Will this work for him if I put it  inches from the fence and house to keep him from where he can get out? Also at night they sleep in the house so I need to know if I can turn it off for them to come inside due to it having to be a complete loop.

ADMIN - Hi Clarissa,

Containing a dog when there is already a physical fence in place is usually straight forward.  You can either run the wire along the fence (stapling it or using ties), or can run the wire along the ground near the fence.

For a backyard only loop, the easiest solution is to complete the loop along the house side by running the wire up a downspout, across the roof-line (through the gutter) and down a downspout on the other side.  The height of the wire above the ground, stops it from activating the collar down at ground level.  There are also a few other options to do a backyard only layout, for more details and diagrams, check out the Installation --&gt; Layouts section of our website.

You don&#039;t want to have to switch the system on and off all the time.  It becomes a royal pain, and our experience is that when it is a pain it doesn&#039;t get used.

Note, in your case, where you only have one escaping dog, you can just put that dog on the system (i.e. you don&#039;t need a second collar).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a fenced in back yard where I keep my dogs. One is a lab and she does not leave the yard unless the other one does. The other dog is a boxer who in the last 6 weeks in his efforts to escape the yard has dug holes, eaten wood, bent my metal gate, pulled the fence away from the polls, moved concrete blocks, and last night he pawed through sheet metal.Will this work for him if I put it  inches from the fence and house to keep him from where he can get out? Also at night they sleep in the house so I need to know if I can turn it off for them to come inside due to it having to be a complete loop.</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Clarissa,</p>
<p>Containing a dog when there is already a physical fence in place is usually straight forward.  You can either run the wire along the fence (stapling it or using ties), or can run the wire along the ground near the fence.</p>
<p>For a backyard only loop, the easiest solution is to complete the loop along the house side by running the wire up a downspout, across the roof-line (through the gutter) and down a downspout on the other side.  The height of the wire above the ground, stops it from activating the collar down at ground level.  There are also a few other options to do a backyard only layout, for more details and diagrams, check out the Installation &#8211;> Layouts section of our website.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t want to have to switch the system on and off all the time.  It becomes a royal pain, and our experience is that when it is a pain it doesn&#8217;t get used.</p>
<p>Note, in your case, where you only have one escaping dog, you can just put that dog on the system (i.e. you don&#8217;t need a second collar).</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/petsafe-large-dog/comment-page-2/#comment-22822</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 00:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi...I have a two year old Saint Bernard who recently has been running through the fence to greet other dogs as they walk down the street with their owners.  I have an older innotek fence with longer prongs on the collar.  He received the correction as I saw his response several times  trying to come back in the yard.  I have worked with him to retrain with a long lead and pull him to safety when he attempts escape.  As soon as another dog approaches he runs through the reward appears greater than the punishment.  Will the stubborn dog work on him?  Tim

ADMIN - Hi Tim,

I like the way you diagnosed the problem, making sure the dog was actually getting the problem and then trying some retraining.  Sounds like you need to make the correction more serious for him.  You should make the boundary wider, at least five feet on each side of the wire and increase the correction level.  If you are already at the maximum, you can either add a second collar with the system you already have (i.e. the dog wears two collars) or use a stonger system like the PetSafe Stubborn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;I have a two year old Saint Bernard who recently has been running through the fence to greet other dogs as they walk down the street with their owners.  I have an older innotek fence with longer prongs on the collar.  He received the correction as I saw his response several times  trying to come back in the yard.  I have worked with him to retrain with a long lead and pull him to safety when he attempts escape.  As soon as another dog approaches he runs through the reward appears greater than the punishment.  Will the stubborn dog work on him?  Tim</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Tim,</p>
<p>I like the way you diagnosed the problem, making sure the dog was actually getting the problem and then trying some retraining.  Sounds like you need to make the correction more serious for him.  You should make the boundary wider, at least five feet on each side of the wire and increase the correction level.  If you are already at the maximum, you can either add a second collar with the system you already have (i.e. the dog wears two collars) or use a stonger system like the PetSafe Stubborn.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/petsafe-large-dog/comment-page-2/#comment-22632</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to purchase the stubborn dog system with an extra collar. I just want to make sure I understand certain features and installation procedures.  

I will be unable to maintain the 6&#039; distance required on my double back perimeter loop.  Can i narrow my perimeter to the twisted wire technique to cross (expansion joint) in my driveway, then open my loop back to the at least 6&#039; requirement to finish my loop on the other side of the driveway? 

I&#039;m not concerned about the twisted wire over the driveway being a dead zone as i have a 6&#039; chain link fence and a gated driveway. I&#039;m only trying to keep my 2 English Mastiffs off my front lawn so i may again enjoy the pleasures if GRASS  :-)

ADMIN - Hi Andy,

Yes, you can bring the wires close together if you are not concerned about the wires being active in that local area.  The perimeter will be active in the sections where there is sufficient (more than 6 feet) of separation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to purchase the stubborn dog system with an extra collar. I just want to make sure I understand certain features and installation procedures.  </p>
<p>I will be unable to maintain the 6&#8242; distance required on my double back perimeter loop.  Can i narrow my perimeter to the twisted wire technique to cross (expansion joint) in my driveway, then open my loop back to the at least 6&#8242; requirement to finish my loop on the other side of the driveway? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not concerned about the twisted wire over the driveway being a dead zone as i have a 6&#8242; chain link fence and a gated driveway. I&#8217;m only trying to keep my 2 English Mastiffs off my front lawn so i may again enjoy the pleasures if GRASS  <img src='http://www.dogfencediy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Andy,</p>
<p>Yes, you can bring the wires close together if you are not concerned about the wires being active in that local area.  The perimeter will be active in the sections where there is sufficient (more than 6 feet) of separation.</p>
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		<title>By: Charity Rodgers</title>
		<link>http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/petsafe-large-dog/comment-page-2/#comment-22579</link>
		<dc:creator>Charity Rodgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  I&#039;m wondering which system would be best for my pet family of four that ranges in size from a 7lb Min-Pin/Chihuahua to a 100lb German Shepherd/Great Pyrenees?  All my dogs are very strong willed...  Not dumb, but definitely stubborn.  We have an acre yard.  Which is the best, most reliable DIY in-ground fencing system for us?

ADMIN - Hi Charity,

Where you have a big range in sizes, the PetSafe systems come into their own.  The collars are interchangeable in the PetSafe containment systems, so you can use the collar that is right-sized for each dog. 

I would install a PetSafe Stubborn system, and use the included dog for the German Shepherd mix.  For the Chihuahua mix, use a PetSafe Little Dog collar.  If you give me age, weight, breed, and temperament of the other two dogs I will be happy to make more specific recommendations.  But generally, for anything under 12 lbs we use the PetSafe Little Dog collar.  For dogs between 12 lbs and 40 lbs, I use the PetSafe Deluxe collar.  And for dogs over 40 lbs, I use the PetSafe Stubborn collar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  I&#8217;m wondering which system would be best for my pet family of four that ranges in size from a 7lb Min-Pin/Chihuahua to a 100lb German Shepherd/Great Pyrenees?  All my dogs are very strong willed&#8230;  Not dumb, but definitely stubborn.  We have an acre yard.  Which is the best, most reliable DIY in-ground fencing system for us?</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Charity,</p>
<p>Where you have a big range in sizes, the PetSafe systems come into their own.  The collars are interchangeable in the PetSafe containment systems, so you can use the collar that is right-sized for each dog. </p>
<p>I would install a PetSafe Stubborn system, and use the included dog for the German Shepherd mix.  For the Chihuahua mix, use a PetSafe Little Dog collar.  If you give me age, weight, breed, and temperament of the other two dogs I will be happy to make more specific recommendations.  But generally, for anything under 12 lbs we use the PetSafe Little Dog collar.  For dogs between 12 lbs and 40 lbs, I use the PetSafe Deluxe collar.  And for dogs over 40 lbs, I use the PetSafe Stubborn collar.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/petsafe-large-dog/comment-page-2/#comment-22331</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi – I have a 100# golden retriever who is very lovable, but a bullheaded lummox.  I have had an IUC 5100 for the past 6 years, and it has done a relatively good job of containing him until recently.  

About 4 months ago, he decided to bite the bullet and run through the containment zone.  Now he does this daily whenever he sees some kid or another dog he wants to play with.  I can see him react as he runs through the zone, so I know he is receiving correction.  

Regardless, I replaced the transmitter and collar through Innotek to make certain they weren’t malfunctioning in some way.  I have verified that the wire is not broken.  The correction level is set to MAX.  I have a ¼ acre city lot, and if I increase the size of the containment zone any more, he won’t be able to get out the front door.

Do you think it is worth switching systems to the PetSafe Stubborn Dog Fence, or would you recommend trying some training techniques to correct this behavior?

ADMIN - Hi Matt,

Since you are seeing him react, he is getting the correction.  It is worth using the collar check feature on the Innotek 5100 collar to make sure the collar is properly placed.  It is possible he is getting a reduced correction because you don&#039;t have a very good connection between collar probe and the dog&#039;s skin. 

I would make the fence wider, by turning up the boundary dial and do a little remedial training (Step II and Step III in our protocol).  I presume the fence is currently at least five feet on either side of the wire.

If the problem persists, then you can look into ways of increasing the correction.  You can either use a second IUC-5100 collar or switch to a PetSafe Stubborn system. It is very few Golden&#039;s that require a collar that strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi – I have a 100# golden retriever who is very lovable, but a bullheaded lummox.  I have had an IUC 5100 for the past 6 years, and it has done a relatively good job of containing him until recently.  </p>
<p>About 4 months ago, he decided to bite the bullet and run through the containment zone.  Now he does this daily whenever he sees some kid or another dog he wants to play with.  I can see him react as he runs through the zone, so I know he is receiving correction.  </p>
<p>Regardless, I replaced the transmitter and collar through Innotek to make certain they weren’t malfunctioning in some way.  I have verified that the wire is not broken.  The correction level is set to MAX.  I have a ¼ acre city lot, and if I increase the size of the containment zone any more, he won’t be able to get out the front door.</p>
<p>Do you think it is worth switching systems to the PetSafe Stubborn Dog Fence, or would you recommend trying some training techniques to correct this behavior?</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Matt,</p>
<p>Since you are seeing him react, he is getting the correction.  It is worth using the collar check feature on the Innotek 5100 collar to make sure the collar is properly placed.  It is possible he is getting a reduced correction because you don&#8217;t have a very good connection between collar probe and the dog&#8217;s skin. </p>
<p>I would make the fence wider, by turning up the boundary dial and do a little remedial training (Step II and Step III in our protocol).  I presume the fence is currently at least five feet on either side of the wire.</p>
<p>If the problem persists, then you can look into ways of increasing the correction.  You can either use a second IUC-5100 collar or switch to a PetSafe Stubborn system. It is very few Golden&#8217;s that require a collar that strong.</p>
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		<title>By: K'Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>K'Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a husky and he loves to dig. So i was wondering if your fence and training system will help with that?

ADMIN - Hi K&#039;Lee,

If the problem is the Husky digging out, or they are digging up a particular part of the garden, then an electric fence that we wire to keep them in will definitely help.  If they are just generally digging up your lawn and you want them to stop but want to still give them access to the lawn, then the dog fence is not going to be of any help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a husky and he loves to dig. So i was wondering if your fence and training system will help with that?</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi K&#8217;Lee,</p>
<p>If the problem is the Husky digging out, or they are digging up a particular part of the garden, then an electric fence that we wire to keep them in will definitely help.  If they are just generally digging up your lawn and you want them to stop but want to still give them access to the lawn, then the dog fence is not going to be of any help.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/petsafe-large-dog/comment-page-2/#comment-22062</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I have a 4 year old (120lb) yellow lab. He was trained at 6 months old with the fence system. He has done an excellent job with staying in even when our fence was struck by lightning or we had a break....HOWEVER....now he is 4 and all of a sudden over the past 2 months he has decided he doesn&#039;t want to stay in anymore. We purchased a new collar in case his was old and not functioning....he got out! Then my husband leashed him and walked the fence...approximately 5 acres and he knows where the fence is and backs up when it beeps.....he got out again....We put him in a pen to do some more &quot;training&quot; and he gets walked twice a day and again backs up when fence beeps....you then trust him to stay out and He again gets out so we continue to keep him in the pen. We have also shaved the neck because right now at wintertime he coat is so thick and we were afraid it wasn&#039;t making contact. This past Saturday we were outside and decided to trust him loose....He crossed the fence when were were not looking and we decided to see what he did....He later comes back to the fence line and lowers his head to a certain position where we think it may not be making contact and crossed back &quot;in&quot; the fence....We don&#039;t know what else to do other than leave him up in &quot;jail&quot; for a while and start more re-training...He knows where the fence is but has decided he will just take the shock and get out.....Do you have any suggestions....we are fresh out of ideas! Sorry to be so lengthy I just had to explain everything we have tried!

ADMIN - Hi Leigh,

To help us diagnose the problem, you want to watch him cross the fence (there might need to be a lure on the other side, like a neighbor&#039;s dog or some food).  You want to see his reaction and whether he reacts or not. 

If there is no reaction or a small reaction (scratching, etc), then he is not getting the correction - that is usually because the prongs aren&#039;t touching the skin - you may need to thin out some hair and be particularly careful when you put on the collar so you can feel probes touching the dog&#039;s skin.  The collar also needs to be tight enough that you cannot insert more than two finger between the collar and the neck.  From your description of his reentering, I suspect this is the issue.

If has a big reaction reacts (flinching, yelping, etc), then he is getting the correction, but going through anyway, you need to make the boundary wider, with 5 acres, you should be able to make it extend at least 10 feet on either side of the wire.  You should also turn up the correction level, and go back and redo the training, starting from what we call stage II.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I have a 4 year old (120lb) yellow lab. He was trained at 6 months old with the fence system. He has done an excellent job with staying in even when our fence was struck by lightning or we had a break&#8230;.HOWEVER&#8230;.now he is 4 and all of a sudden over the past 2 months he has decided he doesn&#8217;t want to stay in anymore. We purchased a new collar in case his was old and not functioning&#8230;.he got out! Then my husband leashed him and walked the fence&#8230;approximately 5 acres and he knows where the fence is and backs up when it beeps&#8230;..he got out again&#8230;.We put him in a pen to do some more &#8220;training&#8221; and he gets walked twice a day and again backs up when fence beeps&#8230;.you then trust him to stay out and He again gets out so we continue to keep him in the pen. We have also shaved the neck because right now at wintertime he coat is so thick and we were afraid it wasn&#8217;t making contact. This past Saturday we were outside and decided to trust him loose&#8230;.He crossed the fence when were were not looking and we decided to see what he did&#8230;.He later comes back to the fence line and lowers his head to a certain position where we think it may not be making contact and crossed back &#8220;in&#8221; the fence&#8230;.We don&#8217;t know what else to do other than leave him up in &#8220;jail&#8221; for a while and start more re-training&#8230;He knows where the fence is but has decided he will just take the shock and get out&#8230;..Do you have any suggestions&#8230;.we are fresh out of ideas! Sorry to be so lengthy I just had to explain everything we have tried!</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Leigh,</p>
<p>To help us diagnose the problem, you want to watch him cross the fence (there might need to be a lure on the other side, like a neighbor&#8217;s dog or some food).  You want to see his reaction and whether he reacts or not. </p>
<p>If there is no reaction or a small reaction (scratching, etc), then he is not getting the correction &#8211; that is usually because the prongs aren&#8217;t touching the skin &#8211; you may need to thin out some hair and be particularly careful when you put on the collar so you can feel probes touching the dog&#8217;s skin.  The collar also needs to be tight enough that you cannot insert more than two finger between the collar and the neck.  From your description of his reentering, I suspect this is the issue.</p>
<p>If has a big reaction reacts (flinching, yelping, etc), then he is getting the correction, but going through anyway, you need to make the boundary wider, with 5 acres, you should be able to make it extend at least 10 feet on either side of the wire.  You should also turn up the correction level, and go back and redo the training, starting from what we call stage II.</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two australian shepard/labrador mixed pups that are a year old and around 65lbs. They are scheduled to be nurtured at the end of the month but I can&#039;t keep them home. We got the Innotek fencing system with two collars and it took no time for my very smart and calculated pups to learn their boundaries or so we thought. It worked great for about 4 months until they figured out they could just run through it to get out and run back through before they thought we would find they were gone...mind you by this time we had turned the system to max correction. My husband and I thought maybe our system wasn&#039;t working correctly but after checking it all out, we found nothing wrong. So now when I am not outside with them they have to be put in their 10&#039; by 20&#039; kennel. The only problem with that is now my one pup Chevy either tunnels under or pulls the chain link apart at the bottom and that is almost impossible to repair. My neighbor has a great dane so I asked him what he uses and he said he got the stubborn dog system and he hasn&#039;t had a problem. She won&#039;t run through it like she did with their previous system. My husband is already upset that nothing is working for our boys and how much money we have spent. Would the stubborn dog system be the answer? I&#039;m truly at the end of my leash!

ADMIN - Hi Molly,

I would try and watch them escape and see if there is any reaction from the dog when they cross.  From your description, it sounds like they are not getting the correction at all - otherwise they would not come back through the field. 

This usually happens because the collar prongs are not touching the dog&#039;s skin so they are not getting the correction.  Check you are getting good contact - you may need to move hair out of the way or thin out the hair a little.  You also want the collar to be tight enough that you cannot insert more than two fingers.

Which Innotek system do you have presently?  If you have a 4100/5100 then you should use the collar-fit checker mode to make sure you have solid contact between the collar prongs and dog&#039;s skin.

Once you have the collar fitted, redo the training starting from Step Two.  You will want to turn the correction level back down (max sounds too high for your dogs), and you should see a whole lot more reaction from the dogs.

A stronger system is unlikely to be the solution for the breeds you have.  Neither the Lab nor the Aussie usually requires a whole lot of correction.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two australian shepard/labrador mixed pups that are a year old and around 65lbs. They are scheduled to be nurtured at the end of the month but I can&#8217;t keep them home. We got the Innotek fencing system with two collars and it took no time for my very smart and calculated pups to learn their boundaries or so we thought. It worked great for about 4 months until they figured out they could just run through it to get out and run back through before they thought we would find they were gone&#8230;mind you by this time we had turned the system to max correction. My husband and I thought maybe our system wasn&#8217;t working correctly but after checking it all out, we found nothing wrong. So now when I am not outside with them they have to be put in their 10&#8242; by 20&#8242; kennel. The only problem with that is now my one pup Chevy either tunnels under or pulls the chain link apart at the bottom and that is almost impossible to repair. My neighbor has a great dane so I asked him what he uses and he said he got the stubborn dog system and he hasn&#8217;t had a problem. She won&#8217;t run through it like she did with their previous system. My husband is already upset that nothing is working for our boys and how much money we have spent. Would the stubborn dog system be the answer? I&#8217;m truly at the end of my leash!</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Molly,</p>
<p>I would try and watch them escape and see if there is any reaction from the dog when they cross.  From your description, it sounds like they are not getting the correction at all &#8211; otherwise they would not come back through the field. </p>
<p>This usually happens because the collar prongs are not touching the dog&#8217;s skin so they are not getting the correction.  Check you are getting good contact &#8211; you may need to move hair out of the way or thin out the hair a little.  You also want the collar to be tight enough that you cannot insert more than two fingers.</p>
<p>Which Innotek system do you have presently?  If you have a 4100/5100 then you should use the collar-fit checker mode to make sure you have solid contact between the collar prongs and dog&#8217;s skin.</p>
<p>Once you have the collar fitted, redo the training starting from Step Two.  You will want to turn the correction level back down (max sounds too high for your dogs), and you should see a whole lot more reaction from the dogs.</p>
<p>A stronger system is unlikely to be the solution for the breeds you have.  Neither the Lab nor the Aussie usually requires a whole lot of correction.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 04:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if you can turn off the beeping and vibrating on the stubborn dog collars or the small dog collar? I bought them used and didn&#039;t have manuals.

ADMIN - Hi Michael,

You cannot turn off the warning beep or vibration on any of the systems except the Dogtek systems.  (I am not sure why anyone would want to turn off the warning, but I presume you have a good reason).  PS - we have all the system manuals on our site, just click the &quot;manual&quot; tab on each product page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if you can turn off the beeping and vibrating on the stubborn dog collars or the small dog collar? I bought them used and didn&#8217;t have manuals.</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Michael,</p>
<p>You cannot turn off the warning beep or vibration on any of the systems except the Dogtek systems.  (I am not sure why anyone would want to turn off the warning, but I presume you have a good reason).  PS &#8211; we have all the system manuals on our site, just click the &#8220;manual&#8221; tab on each product page.</p>
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