Dog Fence Reviews

This section reviews and compares the DIY dog fence systems. We review systems by Innotek, SportDog PetSafe, Perimeter Technologies and Humane Contain. The comparison chart below summarizes our findings. Click on the model name or use the navigation menu of the left for a more detailed review of each system.

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  Innotek
IUC-4100
Innotek
IUC-5100
PetSafe
Little Dog
SportDog
SDF-100A
Dogtra
EF-3000
Rating Excellent" Good Good Good Good
Reliability Excellent Excellent Good Excellent Good
Rechargeable Yes Yes No No Yes
Correction Levels 3 3 4 5 5
Battery Backup Yes Yes No No No
Capacity 25 acres 25 acres 25 acres 100 acres 40 acres
Other Notes
  • Collar Fit
  • Long & short probes
  • Remote trainer
  • Lightning protection
  • Smallest collar
  • Lower correction
  • Highest capacity
  • 1,000 ft wire
  • Collar vibration
Price $299.95 $339.95 $269.95 $239.95 $249.95
  Innotek IUC-4100
full review
Innotek IUC-5100
full review
PetSafe Little
full review
SportDog SDF-100A
full review
Dogtra EF-3000
full review

 

  PetSafe
Stubborn
PetSafe
Deluxe
Innotek
SD-2100
Perimeter
Technologies
Dogtek
EF-4000
Rating Excellent" Good Good Good Good
Reliability Good Good Good Good Good
Rechargeable No No Yes No No
Correction Levels 5 4 3 1/3 8
Battery Backup No No Yes No No
Capacity 10 acres 25 acres 25 acres 5 acres 2.5 acres
Other Features
  • Strongest correction
  • Collar vibration
  • Intercompatible collars
  • Cheapest rechargeable
  • Low interference
  • Soft contacts
  • Indep, warning & corr.n width
Price $194.95 $249.95 $209.95 $159.95 to $204.95 $199.95
  PetSafe Stubborn
full review
PetSafe Deluxe
full review
Innotek SD-2100
full review
Perimeter Technologies
full review
Dogtek EF-4000
full review

 

  Innotek
SD-2000
Innotek
SD-3000
PetSafe
PRF-3004W
Humane
Contain
Smart Dog
HT-023
Rating Excellent" Excellent" Good Good Good
Reliability Good Good Good Poor Poor
Rechargeable No No No No No
Correction Levels 1 1 1 3 1
Battery Backup No No No Yes No
Capacity 5 acres 5 acres 10 acres 100 acres unknown
Other Features
  • Cheapest reliable system
  • Cheapest remote trainer
  • Cheapest PetSafe
  • Compatible with automatic dog door
  • Generic
Price $119.95 $179.95 $159.95 $99.95 $49.95
  Innotek SD-2000
full review
Innotek SD-3000
full review
PetSafe PRF-3004W
full review
Humane Contain
full review
Smart Dog HT-023
full review

 

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Krista May 12, 2011 at 5:58 pm

Hi I have a pet safe system installed for my 3 Aussies but my friend has a guardian system at her house. We are wondering if our collars will work at each others house? Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Krista,

Many of the PetSafe system systems are indeed compatible with the Guardian systems. This is because some of the Gaurdian systems are re-badged PetSafe systems. If you send the model number, we could give you better information. But, the easiest way to test would be to take you collars over to her house and see if they work.

Christina Meric May 12, 2011 at 7:33 pm

I am about to put a fence system into my 2 acre yard for a german shepard?. My question is,,, since I am spending the money on a fence and an electronic collar, I would also like to be able to use the collar on walks as well. What systems have a remote device for a collar to use for walking?

ADMIN – Hi Christina,

If you want a collar that can be used for both containment and has a remote trainer for basic obedience work, your best bet would be the Innotek IUC-5100. That would also work nicely with a German Shepherd and can handle 2 acres.

Sherry May 15, 2011 at 9:09 am

We have a 110 lb great dane and a 14 pound jack russell. They are thick as thieves and just as mischievous. They are fairly well trained, until they decide to sneak off to the stream/bog/pond behind our house to terrorize the geese. We have a shock collar for the gd, but once out of range, she is off and running. We would like to install an a wire fence, but we are not sure which one would work best – and is economically priced. We would prefer rechargeable. We would like to fence in 2 of the 4 acres. Also, would the shock collar (Pet Safe) be compatible with an in-ground wire system? Thanks.

ADMIN – Hi Sherry,

They sound like quite the odd couple. I bet they are a sight! With that kind of difference in size, the PetSafe systems are a good bet because you can use different collars with different dogs. The PetSafe Stubborn is a good economical choice, it uses a disposable battery 9V battery, but you can easily get a rechargeable 9V battery at a Radio Shack for under $10 (an extra $10 if you need a charger too).

For the Jack Russell, get an extra PetSafe Deluxe collar. Unfortunately, the small PetSafe collars require a proprietary battery. The battery on the PetSafe Deluxe is cheaper ($4 vs $10) and lasts longer (3 months vs 2 montsh) than the battery on the PetSafe Little Dog and is the one to get if your dog is over 12lbs (which your is).

You existing shock collar will not work with a dog containment system. We would avoid using the shock collar for containment, it usually just ends up teaching the dog not to escape while you are looking, and when they do escape to keep running till they get out of range. Until the dog fence is put in, keep them on a leash or some other line. We don’t want them getting in the habit of escaping, it makes the training a little harder.

kathryn May 16, 2011 at 5:19 pm

This is a great website! Thank you for all your hard work.

We are about to move to the country and I am interested in getting an electric fence for my 12lbs Jack Russell (who is fairly well trained but very determined) and my cat. We are on a road where people drive by fast and that is my main concern. We are probably looking to cover an area of a few acres.

Which system would be best for the cat, but most importantly for the dog? It seems most systems that have high ratings do not have different sizes for smaller dogs. What would be my best option? I am also set on using rechargeable batteries for whatever system we use. Could the Innotek 4100 be used for my Jack? Could it be set to a lower setting? Would the collar be too bulky?

ADMIN – Hi Kathryn,

Appreciate your kind words. The PetSafe systems would be your best bet for a system that can contain both a cat and a dog. I would suggest a PetSafe Little Dog system and an extra PetSafe Cat collar. You want to use one of the dedicated cat collars if you are going to contain the cat, because it is a breakaway collar and has lower correction level both of which are must-haves for a cat.

Both those collars I recommended to you have the obnoxious PetSafe disposable battery. It is expensive ($10) and lasts about 2 months (3 months if you remember to turn it off every night). It is unfortunately the only good choice if you want to contain a cat.

The Jack Russel is right on our border at 12lbs for an Innotek IUC-4100. If you wanted to contain just him and wanted to try a 4100, place the collar on him for a day or two (with the system off) and make sure he is comfortable. If he is not comfortable, we can exchange it for the PetSafe Little Dog. The lowest correction level on the 4100 would be fine for him.

Conern Pet Owner May 16, 2011 at 5:51 pm

I have a King Charles that loves to dash out in the street a have had 2 close encounters. I would prefer wireless just in case if I move from the house that I’m currently renting. what wireless units can you recommend? I need a unit that can work for the front and garage door.

ADMIN – Hi,

If you are just trying to block the front door and the garage door, instead of a full system, consider using either a pair of the indoor wireless pods or the outdoor wireless pods to block just those two spots.

Ross May 18, 2011 at 9:42 pm

We have two black labs that are just over a year old. We have a vacation home in the mountains in Upstate NY. It is wooded 4 acres that runs into a lake on one side. So far, they are not really swimmers and only go in where they can touch, so I am not worried about the lake area. As the property is on a large slope to the water with many trees-is there a wireless system that would work? I worry that is would almost be impossible to dig for the wire. We go up a majority of weekends and get some week stays throughout the year. The dogs constantly disappear chasing other animals. As our full time home has a fenced in yard- we never have such issues.

ADMIN – Hi Ross,

None of the wireless systems are going to work with a lot of tress on the property. If you can’t bury the wire, one option would be just to staple the wire to the ground in the wooded area – over time as the leaves fall it will tend to bury itself.

Martin May 22, 2011 at 1:41 am

Great site. I have a Corgi that is just over 1 year old. He is quite mild but loves to explore. He becomes quite submissive when wearing any type of training collar. I am looking for a system to keep out of our garden areas but give him most of the back yard in which to play. The back yard in which he would have access is about 2800 sq feet. It is level with not much sculpturing. What would you recommend.?

ADMIN – Hi Martin,

What is weight of the Corgi?

If she is on the small side, and under 12lbs, then a PetSafe Little Dog System would be our top choice. The collar on that system is very small. However, it does have a proprietary battery that costs around $10 and lasts about 2-3 months. So where possible we try to use other systems that don’t impose that kind of ongoing cost.

If she is over 12lbs, the Innotek IUC-4100 would be a good choice. The collar on that system is a little bigger, but it is also rechargeable. The collar also has a nice fit-detection mode that is very useful for getting the collar properly situated on long-hair dogs.

I wasn’t sure if you are trying to keep the dog contained, or just keep her out of the garden. If you just need a bit of help, keeping her off a few spots, a full containment system would be overkill. Instead you could use one or more of these outdoor pods (cleverly disguised as a rock). They would let you block off a few areas either wirelessy or using a small amount of wire. Installation would be a lot cheaper and easier than a full system. The included collar on this system is not the greatest, but whould be fine for keeping a small dog out of the garden.

Willem J Martins May 23, 2011 at 2:52 pm

I used the Sport Dog system with 100% success on my hyperactive Lab mix for three years now. We just moved to a new home, so I purchased the new model from you and it worked from day one. We have a new family member though, being a Siberian Husky, now at five months old. It took me one day to train him and we had success now for two weeks.

Everyone tells me though when a Siberian Husky grows up, the fence will not hold him back. I have almost been crucified by the Husky owners board, for being stupid and cruel.

Any Husky experience will be appreciated.

ADMIN – Hi Willem,

We often get the same reaction when doing installations for with Husky owners. They have a reputation as being stubborn, untrainable, and impossible to contain. Our experience, has been the exact opposite. Then tend to be very sensitive dogs, very receptive to the correction. I have noticed they are independent and hard to train when you have no leverage, but with the correction they are very quick to learn.

The big challenge with Huskies is to get the collar on correctly. Many people are not aware the probes need to touch the skin for the collar to work. With the thick undercoat, that can be a little tricky with a Husky. I suspect the reason there is such a high rate of complaints from Husky owners is that they aren’t getting the collar fitted quite right and consequently the dog does not get he correction consistently leading to breakouts.

As long as you keep that collar well fitted, I would not expect problems.

Natalia May 25, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Does anyone make a wireless fence for dogs that is much less expensive than a $280?

ADMIN – Hi Natalia,

Afraid even the least expensive wireless fence is $280. There are some good choices in wired dog fences that are cheaper. For example the PetSafe Stubborn, and the SportDog SDF-100A.

Erica May 26, 2011 at 8:02 pm

What fence would u recommend for a 1year old husky. She loves to run m chase all small creatures. When she is in chase mode she is deaf to the world around her. She is very strong

ADMIN – Hi Erica,

Huskies are among the easier dogs to train. They are very quick to learn when they are motivated, and they really do not like the correction.

With the thick undercoat coat of a Husky, the Innotek IUC-4100 is a good choice because it has a collar check mode that lets you know if the collar is fitted properly. The PetSafe Stubborn would also be a good cheaper choice. It has a bigger bulkier collar and a disposable battery instead of a rechargeable, but also works well.

(This answer assumes you have a yard under 20 acres)

Lynn May 30, 2011 at 4:27 pm

I have a 48 inch tall wooden fence around my back yard and my black lab keeps jumping up and over it. I need to stop him. There is a power line that runs above and parallel to it. The wireless fences seem to work in a circle which wouldn’t work with the square shape of my fenced yard. Would the power lines above interfere with an electric fence? They’re as tall as the 2nd story of my house. And could i hang it from the fence itself? Thanks!

ADMIN – Hi Lynn,

With the power lines so high overhead they will not be an issue. You can indeed hang the wire from the fence.

dan m June 1, 2011 at 10:03 am

i have a 95 lb belgian malinois who is not heard headed and learns very quickly, a bit timid when it comes to corrections. We also have a 10-15 lb mutt, not as bright. we will be fencing 1-2 acres. what do you recommend? thanks.

ADMIN – Hi Dan,

With that much difference in size, a system with independent correction levels will be essential. I would also lean toward the PetSafe systems that let you mix-and-match collars so each dog can get something well suited to them.

The PetSafe Stubborn system will work well with the Belgian Malinois. It is a very strong collar, but you can keep it on the lower settings. The collar is large, but is durable, inexpensive, and uses a regular 9V battery.

With the smaller dog, I would get either a PetSafe Deluxe collar (if they are closer to 15lbs), or a PetSafe Little Dog collar (if they are closer to 10lbs). The PetSafe Little Dog collar is smaller, but uses a more expensive proprietary battery – so if you don’t need something that small the PetSafe Deluxe collar would be preferable.

Alicia Chaput June 1, 2011 at 12:30 pm

I am looking into getting an electric fence for my two dogs. Here is the issue, our girl is a Cairn Terrier, she is about 18lbs and our boy is a German Shepard Shar pai mix, he is about 80lbs (he has a very thick neck with a lot of thick fur. They both need to be contained for their safety and other obvious reasons. What would be the best system for us to buy to keep both of our dogs happy and safe. We have a little over 1/2 an acre of property and we would like to do it ourselves to save on costs. Thank you!! Look forward to hearing from you.

ADMIN – Hi Alicia,

Where we have so much variation in the size of the dogs, it is preferable to use a system that lets us use different collars with each dog. The PetSafe Stubborn system would work well with the German Shepherd mix. For the Terrier you can add an extra PetSafe Deluxe collar.

As to the thick coat on the German, you can use the optional long-prongs with the PetSafe Stubborn ($15 through PetSafe 800-732-2677). You will also want to thin the fur out a little with some scissors in the neck region. It is essential that the prongs are actually touching skin and not insulated by a layer of fur. Particularly in the first few weeks, you will want to move errant fur out of the way when you put the collar on – and tighten the buckle on the collar so that you can only insert two fingers.

Brent Lott June 1, 2011 at 10:40 pm

Hi, me and my wife plan on getting a puppy golden lab and we live next to a busy road with a 55mph speed limit. what we are wondering is what system we would need and about a total boundry of 2 acres. We want it to keep the dog away from the road and in our yard. Thanks and hope to hear back from you. Brent Lott

ADMIN – Hi Brent,

Wonderful! Labs tend to be easy to train, giving you a wide variety of options. My top choice would be an Innotek IUC-4100, it is a good reliable system with a rechargeable collar. My second choice would be a SportDog SDF-100A, the collar is a little bulkier and it is not rechargeable – but it is also excellent and costs a little less.

When you train him, in Step Three of the training make sure to test him with a wide variety of temptations that he will encounter on the street. (At the minimum, use a neighbor’s dog, a a family member, and a tennis ball as bait) You want to be really confident that the training will hold even when there are really strong temptations in the street. As I am sure you appreciate, particularly when you live next to a busy road, you want to be completely confident in the dog’s training before you start letting him off leash.

A good time to start a puppy is after 6 months. Unless you have already done a lot of work with a puppy before that, most are not mature enough before that age to do the dog fence training.

Mitch L June 4, 2011 at 4:25 pm

what would you recommend for a 130 pound Rottweiler with a real stubborn streak. He is gentle and sweet until he wants to get somewhere and then it’s look out. He was on an arial run and just finished pulling down a full sized basketball pole that was buried in concrete. I am concerned that a shocking system will just not work. Suggestions are welcome.

ADMIN – Hi Mitch,

With a stronger willed dog, I would suggest one of the more high strength systems like the PetSafe Stubborn Dog Fence. I would however start him on the medium setting and only go up if you get no response. Often even very hard headed dogs respond to comparatively mild corrections. The sensation is a very unusual one to a dog and so we don’t need to overpower them, just create a discomfort. If you do the training, I would fully expect that he is completely contained within 2-3 weeks.

Paul June 7, 2011 at 12:51 pm

We have a 22 poound Cockapoo and want to keep them only in our backyard. The yard is about 1/2 acres, it very wooded and slopes down in one corner about 40 feet. What type of fence system would you recommend?

ADMIN – Hi Paul,

For your 22 lb Cockapoo, I’d recommend going with the Innotek IUC 4100 for your 1/2 acre property. The collar is a nice size for your dog and it’s rechargeable. You’ll need 1,000 feet of wire to cover your property. Also, for backyard layouts, you’ll need to use one of the following backyard layouts: http://www.dogfencediy.com/installation/plan/#backyard

Rober Hall June 8, 2011 at 12:10 pm

My neighbor and I have been talking about putting an underground dog fence in. Our situation is as follows! We live in neighboring townhomes that are connected. There are four units per building and we occupy the two middle units. We want to run wire from each side of our townhome border to a privacy fence that sits directly in front of us 35 feet away. Would we have to run wire around the perimeter to make this work properly or could we just run one strip of wire on each side of our townhome to the fence? One of the dogs is 14lbs and the other is 17lbs, any ideas on a fence that would work well for us? Our biggest concern is the size of the collars! Some of them seem huge!

ADMIN – Hi Robert,

For two separate loops in your scenario, it appears you’ll need two systems: one for the front and one for the back. The fence requires the wire to be in a complete loop meaning that the wire must go out and back to the wall transmitter. The layout you will need to use for both front and back will be the gutter layout under the backyard only layouts illustrated here: http://www.dogfencediy.com/installation/plan/#backyard.

I’d recommend the Innotek 4100 for both the 14 and 17 lb dogs. They are big enough to wear the collar. The collar is one of the sleeker, smaller collars we sell and the great thing is that it’s rechargeable.

Heather June 9, 2011 at 8:14 pm

I have a 5 month old border collie/mix that I need to get an invisible fence for. She is very hyperactive and loves to run. She is only 13 lbs right now, and the vet said at most she expects her to be 25-30 lbs. What would be the best fence for her?

ADMIN – Hi Heather,

For a border collie mix, the Innotek IUC-4100 would be a good choice. It has one of the smaller collars, and is rechargeable. The collar also has a “ready-fit” mode where it lets you know if the collar is fitted correctly, this feedback is useful when getting the collar on a long-hair dog like a Collie.

Leif June 12, 2011 at 7:27 pm

We have a number of other family members with pet containment systems and would like to take our German Shepherd to their yards. Which collars work with other systems or do they have to be from the same manufacturer? They use Pet Stop fencing and we’d like to have something compatible.

ADMIN – Hi Leif,

Collars are not usually compatible between manufacturers. If they have a Pet Stop system, you will need to get a new collar through Pet Stop.

The Innotek IUC-4100, IUC-5100 & SD-2100 collars are intercompatible.

The PetSafe wired system and SportDog wired system collars are intercompatible.

Naomi June 13, 2011 at 11:04 pm

Hello. Looking for advice on which system to purchase. We have a very energetic, 60 lb Weimaraner who just turned a year old. We live on a 3/4 acre lot in a quiet, suburban neighborhood in New York state. Our dog has started to wander off our property, mostly in search of playmates next door and across the street. I’m worried that the (loose) dog across the street will come to play with our dog, and then try to lure our dog through the fence when he goes back across the street. We also have a large plot of woods on the back border of property, which he LOVES to run free in when given the chance. We recently started to use a Dogtra 2300 training collar as part of his obedience training. I’m leaning toward the PetSafe IUC 4100 to keep him on our property, but I’m wondering if our existing Dogtra collar would work with a Dogtra fence system. Thanks for your advice!

ADMIN – Hi Naomi,

Afraid the Dogtra training collar will not work with a Dogtra dog containment system.

The IUC-4100 would be a good choice for a Weimaraner. If there are particular temptations like the neighbor’s dog, I would incorporate that into the last few days of the training (what we call Step Three of the Training). That way we can work with the dog in a more controlled setting so that we are sure the dog will respond correctly when we start to let them off leash.

J Knutsen June 21, 2011 at 4:11 pm

Our Maltese wears a Pet Safe bark collar. If this collar were on at the same time as the collar for the Little Dog underground fence system, will these two conflict with each other. Could we be so lucky that the collar would work for both barking and containment? Thanks JHK

ADMIN – Hi Jay,

Unfortunately there are no combination bark and dog fence collars. The two collars do not cause interference. But, try and keep some separation between the two collar, because sometimes the dog fence collar and bark collar knocking into each other can cause the bark sensor to trigger. If the bark sensor is on one side of the collar, try and put the dog fence collar on the other side of the dog’s neck.

Jayne June 21, 2011 at 8:16 pm

We have four small dogs 12 pounds and less. Which system would you recommend? I would like rechargable batteries – four dogs would cost me too much for replaceable batteries. Can I train all four dogs at once or should I train one at a time? Thanks for your help.

ADMIN – Hi Jayne,

With dogs under 12lbs, the only collars that are the appropriate size and have the appropriate correction strength are the PetSafe Little Dog Containment System. The collars are not rechargeable – I am afraid there is nothing rechargeable that fits smaller dogs well. One little money saving tip is to turn the collars off when they are not in use. Just turning them off every night turns the battery life from about 2 months to about three months.

You can train all four dogs during the same 2-3 week period, but I would not train them as a group. When you are training one, keep the others inside and out of site. Otherwise, the dogs don’t always give you their full attention – they are too busy looking at each other.

Garret June 22, 2011 at 11:18 am

My neighbor and I have fencing around our lots but we decided to not fence off the back yard in between us. We both have kids and this allows the kids more yard in the back to play as they play with each other. However, our dogs are problems with their business. They have a bigger dog that is always in our yard on on our deck and our smaller dog goes over into their back yard. My question…is it possible for us to run one underground fence and use 2 different collars. Their dog use a collar that keeps them in their boundaries, and our dog wear one that keeps her in our boundaries? Do you have any suggestions on how we can make that work? Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Garret,

If I understand you correctly, we want to keep each dog in their own yard.

If you only need to stop them crossing the center line and the other fencing kept the dogs from wandering out into the street then you could make do with one system. You could install one common system that just made a long thin loop that went down the center of the property. Each dog would have their own collar and would be prevented from crossing the center line.

If you also need the other boundaries to be active, you would need two separate systems. You should look at a dual frequency system like the Perimeter Ultra that would allow you to run your systems close together without them interfering with each other.

Sam Bowerman June 23, 2011 at 3:36 pm

Not to sound “dumb”, but, what is system capacity based upon? If you run more wire for a wired system, how does that provide you with spare capacity? Does more wire weaken the signal ? We live on top of a mountain with lots of rocks and boulders, can the wire go around some and under others, buried in some locations and not in others? Your site is excellent and very, very much appreciated. Thank you

ADMIN – Hi Sam,

System capacity is the amount of wire you can run on a system while maintaining a good boundary width. The systems require power to more power to push the signal through longer stretches of wire. So if you want to have boundaries that are five feet wide, you need more power for a 1000 foot run of wire than you do for a 100 foot run of boundary wire. To send more power to the wire you turn up the power dial (the boundary width dial).

When we talk about having capacity in reserve, we are suggesting that people don’t use a system close to it’s limit. The reason for this is that while a system may be rated for 25 acres – when running the system with 25 acres of wire (about 5,000 feet of wire) you will only get a relatively thin boundary zone (perhaps 3-5 feet on either side of the wire). While that is fine for most dogs, some dogs will require the boundary to be a bit wider for the training period. Also when it snows you want to be able to have a wider boundary so that the signal can pass through all the accumulated snow and still reach the surface.

sue June 24, 2011 at 12:58 pm

Does the Innotek 4100 come with a spare battery? Does the the Innotek 4100 system come with lightening protection?

Admin- Hi Sue,

The Innotek systems do not come a replacement battery. The battery are built into the collars and will not require a replacement. Also, the Innotek IUC-4100 does not come with a lightning protector.

Joan June 26, 2011 at 7:05 pm

I have 2 cairn terriors who frequently try to escape when an unsuspecting person tries to enter the gate. I was wondering the possibility of using the invisible fence type thing for just the gates of my yard. Is there an item that is specifically used for this purpose? Or would I need to do domething similar to the invisible fence? thanks!

ADMIN – Hi Joan,

Yes, there is a specific product for this. It’s called the Outdoor Rock and Collar set and you can set these up at your gates and they create a circular zoned boundary to keep your terriers away from your gates. Here’s a link to them: http://dogfencediy.com/store/accessories/indoor-zones/rock.html

Mary Anne June 30, 2011 at 12:59 pm

We have a Dog Watch system installed at our home in PA. We have been living away for three years, so my daughter took the transmitter and collars to use at here cabin in the mountains. We are now moving back and we cannot find the collars. I have checked with dog watch and then checked on line for DIY systems and they are much cheaper. My question is, can a DIY system (transmitter/monitor) and collars be used with the wire that is in place on our property? It is cheaper for me to buy a top of the line DIY and extra collars, than to replace 3 Dogwatch collars. I also need to get the fence repaired in a few spots due to lawn aeration. Need as answer ASAP thanks!

ADMIN – Hi Mary Anne,

You can indeed use the wire with any type of dog fence system with any other dog fence system. There is nothing special about the wire that locks it to one brand.

Larry July 3, 2011 at 10:18 pm

I have two labradoodles, 50 lb female and 95 lb male. We are moving to a new location and need a fence the female won’t jump. I’m considering a 4′ chainlink along with a DIY fence to prevent her from jumping. She reacts strongly to any noise like a whine or whistle. Is there a system that has a strong noise alert as a warning to the dog?

ADMIN – Hi Larry,

All of the dog containment system collars have a pretty soft warning beep at the collar. The PetSafe Stubborn, SportDog SDF-100, and Dogtra EF-3000 have a vibrate function in addition to the correction. The vibration is enough to deter a lot of more timid dogs.

Julie July 6, 2011 at 3:15 pm

We have a St Bernard and a cockapoo. We live on 5 acres and need something for both dogs being they are opposite ends of the weight scale. Any suggestions??

ADMIN – Hi Julie,

For dogs that are very different in size, the PetSafe systems are a good bet. I would get a PetSafe Stubborn system and use the included collar for the St Bernard.

How big is your cockapoo? If they are over 12lbs, add an extra PetSafe Deluxe collar. If they are under 12lbs, get an extra PetSafe Little Dog collar. Both the aforementioned collars will work with your PetSafe Stubborn system.

Phillip July 7, 2011 at 9:54 pm

We have a 10 yr old, 12 lb Jack Russell chihuahua mix, and 2 new 3-month medium size hound mixes from the animal shelter. What system is recommended that will cover the different size dogs? Also, in the middle of our property is a chicken coupe. Is there a system that also has an on-demand trainer for when the animals harass the chickens?

ADMIN – Hi Phillip,

With a lot of difference in size, PetSafe systems with their intercompatible collars are a good bet. The PetSafe Stubborn system would work well, using the PetSafe Stubborn collars with the hounds. For the smaller dog, use the compatible PetSafe Little Dog collar. (How big is your yard? If it is bigger than 5 acres, do this the other way round and get the higher capacity PetSafe Little Dog system and add PetSafe Stubborn collars)

The Innotek IUC-5100 is the only system with a remote trainer, but that would not work well with your smaller dogs because of the larger collar size it is only a good fit on dogs over 20lbs.

An alternative to protect the chicken coup would be to either use one of the wireless pods or run some wire around the coup to exclude the dogs from that area.

Tonya Faulkner July 11, 2011 at 11:48 am

We currently have an innotek ultra smart system. Collars are iuc-4225. I know the wall mount transmitter is not the iuc-5100 that comes with lightning protection. We have replaced many collars due to them coming off and the dog eatting it. We have 3 acres. A 100 lb lab/rottweiler. He has a very thick coat . We recently bought the longer prongs . He tests the fence often . If collar has moved or has died or low, he gets out . Lightning blew up the transmitter Monday and parts of the wiring. We have had it for six yrs, same dog. We are replacing it. Should we replace all the outside wires? do you suggest a better system than what we have ? I don’t mind buying new collars if I need to. Help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Wire is on ground with staples if that matters.

ADMIN – Hi Tonya

If the wires are still intact and working I would continue to use them. Sometimes the lightning burns out the wire and insulation – if there is damage all along the wire, you would be better off replacing it all.

The Innotek IUC-4100 system you currently have is very good. I would just replace the transmitter, and keep you existing collars. The transmitter and wall adapter plug costs around $100 which woudl be a lot more economical than replacing the entire system.

PS – you can buy the lightning protection module for use with any system (the smae one that is bundles in teh Innotek IUC-5100). It is $39.95 and is worth getting if you live in an area that gets lots of lightning strikes.

doren michael July 12, 2011 at 5:54 pm

We have a petsafe system for a stubborn dog purchased 14+ years ago. We moved to this location and i installed the wiring and the system worked fine. i had a collar failure and had to order a new collar about 5 years ago. When i received the collar it seemed that the dog had to be further away from the wire boundary in order to be safe, or for the collar to begin beeping. The previous collar was something like a foot, the new collar was 2-3 feet. We tried to adjust it. This latest collar has failed and i need to order a new one. The reason that this is an issue is because our lot is narrow, with maybe 6 to 7 feet between lot line to inground fence and if you have flowers, there is very little room for a dog to roam without the beeper going off. What would you recommend?

Admin-Hi Doren,
You may have a transmitter problem. We recommend once you get a new collar to set up a 15-20 foot test loop. A test loop will narrow down where the problem lies. Check the collar with the test loop and see if you are having similar issues.

Josh July 12, 2011 at 9:02 pm

How many collars can I charge on the charger that comes in the 4100 kit? I need two collars and was buying an extra one and if the charger only chargers one, then does the extra collar come with a charger or is that going to be a separate purchase?

Admin- Hi Josh,

The chargers can only charge one collar at a time. Additional collars do not come with a charger. Additional chargers are available for $29.95. It takes 1-2 hours to charge a collar, and you will only do it once a month so most people don’t need a second charger.

Mikey Stafford July 13, 2011 at 11:32 pm

Hi, we have a 5 month old blue heeler that is very stubborn. He has “friends” in the neighborhood and loves to run to them. We have a double lot and would like an electronic fence, do you recommend underground or wireless and which product number of the recommendation. Thanks for your help!

ADMIN – Hi Mikey,

An underground fence is always preferable to wireless – they are much more accurate and reliable making for easy training. For a blue heeler, an Innotek IUC-4100 woudl be a good choice, the collar is one of the smaller collars, it is rechargeable, and it has a collar fit sensor that is useful for getting the collar fitted correctly. Herding dogs like blue heeler, are generally very quick to pick up on the new boundary rules – so training should be a treat.

Eric July 20, 2011 at 2:16 pm

Hi Stewart and gang,

I must say that this site is awsome…so much useful information in one place. I have a Daschund/Collie mix ((I think, anyway…she is a rescue dog so I’m not 100% sure – she may be Aussie Shephard instead of Collie – (long hair)) and she is about 28 lbs. I have a 1 acre lot that I think I will fully enclose so she can run as much as possible (loves to run).

I’m reading all the reviews and like the 4100/5100, but noticed that the SportDog 100A is considerably cheaper and also comes with 1000′ of wire. Reliability is the most important factor and both units get 4.5 paws. Do you think the 4100/5100 is worth the extra money? If so, why?
Thanks,
Eric

Admin- Hi Eric,

Thanks for the feedback. You cannot go wrong with any of these systems. However, we feel that the SportDog collar is a bit too bulky for a 28-pound dog. We feel that the Innotek system is worth the extra money because the slim line rechargeable collar and the design of the transmitter. The recharge time on the collar takes about 2-hours and will last a month. Also, the battery back up is great feature. The system can operate on battery power for 40-hours if your house were to lose power.

Jamie C July 20, 2011 at 2:38 pm

Have you reviewed the SportDOG In-Ground Fence System? We have yellow lab. Thanks.

Admin- Hi Jamie,

The SportDog System will work great for a Yellow Lab. Please view our review on the SportDog system below.
http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/review-sportdog/

Melissa July 23, 2011 at 9:17 am

We have a 50 lb Lab mix and an 15-week-old 8 lb Chihuahua mix puppy and want to buy a diy underground fence system for our 5 acre lot. Based on the reviews we’ve read on your site we’d like to get the Innotek IUC 4100 if possible. Our puppy will likely be over 12 lbs when she’s grown, but will the size difference between the two dogs still be too great for that system? What would you recommend? Thank you.

Admin-Hi Melissa,

The Innotek is a great system. However, the IUC-4100 does not offer independent correction levels. Therefore, both of your dogs would be on the same correction level. For dogs with a weight difference of 40% or more, we recommend the PetSafe Stubborn/Large Dog Fence. You can use the included Stubborn Dog Collar for the Lab mix and bundle in an additional PetSafe Little Dog Collar for your Chihuahua.

Mike C. July 25, 2011 at 9:10 am

Thanks for the help with my previous questions. Ending up purchasing the IUC-4100 based on the reviews and your recommendation. I do have an additional question however.

The house I bought had an old electric fence installed, but the wire was not working properly with my new IUC-4100 collar, and I also had no idea where the wire perimeter was laid. So I have dug it all up and have started to lay my new wire in almost the same trench. However, in the part where the wire crosses the driveway, I have not been able to pull up the old wire because it is about 3 inches down into the crack, and appears to maybe have been sealed by the previous owners. Is it necessary for me to have this removed so it does not interfere with my wire that I would lay above it, or is it a non-issue because there will not be any current passing through the old wire? I look forward to hearing back from you soon.

Thanks!!

Admin- Hi Mike,

You can leave the old wire in place. You will not receive any interference from the old wire since there is no signal passing through the wire.

Mark July 26, 2011 at 11:06 am

Hello, I have a lab with a fenced property covering a little over an acre with a pond. My question is are there any collars that will work well with a lab and are waterproof in case he decides to go for a swim in the pond? Thank You

Admin- Hi Mark,

A great system for your lab will be the Innotek IUC-4100. The collars are slim fit and rechargeable. They are also our best waterproof collars.

phil polakowski July 27, 2011 at 1:31 pm

what would you recommend for a system to accomodate 2 different dogs that has a rechargeable collar.one dog is a 50 lb corgi/bloodhound mix and the other is a 19 lb italian greyhound.i would like to stay away from having to replace batteries on a regular basis if possible.it is not a large yard(approx 1/2 acre) and would not consider a wireless fence because of the logistics and also of preferance.

thank you for any information and suggestions,
phil

Admin- Hi Phil,

The best rechargeable system for your Corgi/Bloodhound and Italian Greyhound will be the Innotek IUC-4100. The IUC-4100 is a great system; however, the system does not offer independent correction levels. Therefore, both of you dogs would be on the same correction level. The only way to offer different levels of correction with the IUC-4100 would be to use what we call the Resistor Hack. Utilizing resistors you can reduce the correction amount for an individual collar by 50%. Please take a look at our instructional video.

Resistor Hack: http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/innotek-ultrasmart-iuc-4100/resistor-hack/

Rachel Stubbe August 3, 2011 at 6:37 pm

We have a stream that runs through the front yard and need to run the underground fence either through it or over it. Any suggestions. Also, this is for my German Shepherd puppy. I’ve read that they could go right through the underground fence, what are your thoughts on that and which fence would you recommend for him. Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Rachel,

To run the wire across a stream, I will usually go along the stream bed – running the wire through a protective sheath like hose pipe, then stapling it to the stream bed. If there is a fallen tree or some other convenient crossing – you can also run the wire over the water.

A dog that has done the initial dog fence training will not run through the fence, indeed they probably will not realize that this is even possible and will just assume the correction continues on out indefinitely. German Shepherd train nicely – sometimes they require a little stronger stimulation, because as guardian dogs many have been bred to be insensitive to pain.

Two good systems for a German Shepherd would be the Innotek IUC-4100 and the PetSafe Stubborn. The Innotek is smaller, rechargeable and has more features like the collar fit check which is useful on long-hair dogs like Germans. The PetSafe is bigger, and uses a disposable battery and a little cheaper. Both would do a good job for you.

(I am presuming you are doing under 10 acres? If not let me know and I will make some other recommendations)

Sherry August 3, 2011 at 8:10 pm

I have a Great Pyrenees, just a pup right now, who will be my livestock guardian. He will not be contained inside the fence with my livestock, however, I am interested in keeping him contained within my property boundaries. My question, is an underground electric fence safe during an electrical/lightening storm? Is there an increased risk of lightening strike to the dog wearing the collar?

ADMIN – Hi Sherry,

There is no increased of your dog getting struck during a lighting storm (the collars are plastic).

There is a risk that the wire you run along your property boundaries can get struck, particularly in areas where there is lots of lightning activity. When this happens, the lightning travels back through he dog fence wire and fries the dog fence transmitter. If this is likely to be an issue in your area, it is worth getting the lightning protection module which acts like a fuse and stops that happening.

Rachel August 11, 2011 at 7:58 am

Hello, we bought the Inotek 4100 for our new 10-mo. puppy a couple months ago. Finally we finished installing it and are in the beginning stages of the training. We haven’t even gotten to the point of removing the plastic covers on the shock probes. The problem is that the reliability so far has been extremely poor, and I’m afraid that it’s going to start to confuse our puppy because of the inconsistencies – and she hasn’t even experienced the shock yet.

This is what I have observed so far:
1. The field width is consistent the majority of the time but there are flagrant inconsistencies – for example, I just walked out to the driveway with her and the collar beeped literally 8 feet from where it always had before. And just yesterday the field width along a length of fence moved about 3 feet from where it had consistently beeped on a previous day (where I had placed the flags). Frequently there is a discrepancy of a couple feet. Is that supposed to be normal? I’m finding it really confusing.

2. There is an area in our side yard that seems to be completely dead. The collar wouldn’t even beep green to tell me that it was charged – but when I stepped out of that area, it returned to normal. Nothing particularly strange about the area – just lucky that it’s full of berry brambles and the neighbors have a fence on that side. But it should still function.

3. The collar beeps between 3 and 6 times before going to the shock/higher beep. Is that normal for the warning period to be so short? It is also necessary to back up about 3 feet during that one second in order to prevent the shock. Is that normal?

4. And perhaps the most disturbing: Many times now I have walked with the collar past the flagged area (where it had warning beeped before) and heard no beep at all, and then all of a sudden two feet past the flags the collar goes straight to the shock (skipping the warning phase). Why is this happening??

Please note that the collar continues to flash green to show that it has a charge and the transmitter light shows that it is supposed to be functioning correctly. The correction level is set at medium.

I bought the Innotek 4100 because of its high reliability ratings, but I’m beginning to think that either the collar or the central unit is a lemon. Help!!!

(And I purchased from this website because I saw this terrific forum with the prompt and thorough replies to customer questions………………..)

thanks for your help!!!

ADMIN – Hi Rachel,

Hi Rachel,

What you are describing should not happen, you are right to hold off from training the pup until the issue is sorted out. You will get a little inconsistency, but anything more that 20% on a wired system means something is going wrong.

What is your layout like and how large is the containment area? Do you have a neighbor with a dog fence?

Without knowing more, the symptoms you describe sound a lot like the boundary width dial turned up too high. When this happens, the sides of the fence start interfering with each other. Turn it down to the minimum and then turn it up 1/20th turn at a time until the collar starts triggering 3-5 feet out from the wire.

It is also possible there is something wrong with your system. Give us a call and we can help you troubleshoot it on the phone.

Zach S. August 20, 2011 at 1:27 am

I have two mixed breed pound rescues, one is 60 lbs, the other is 35ish lbs. The 60 lbs she is a great dog, she listens to commands very well, she seems to understand what i want even if i dont say anything. she would only need minor correction. However the 35-40 lbs, shes a handful, not to say she isnt a good dog, but she is hard headed, not as bad as some, but can test your patients. She would never a greater level of correction. I was originally looking at a wireless system, since we rent, but I have read some not-so-good reviews. I live on an acre with some trees. We live in the high desert, and the temperature range is vast. below zero in the winter to over 100 in the summer. We can get up to a foot of snow in the winter. So my questions, i have a few. Wired or wireless? im leaning more towards wired because of its reliability. How long do the rechargeable batteries last versus the ‘throw away’ batteries? I like the convenience of rechargeable, but dont want to have to recharge them every day. Are there systems were i can set a different correction level for each dog? Can the wired systems stand up to such vast temperature changes? Will the wired signal be able to penetrate through a few inches of soil and up to a foot of snow? Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Zach,

Wired fence are far superior to wireless, they should always be your first choice. They have a much more consistent boundary than the wireless systems making for much easier training.

The rechargeable batteries on the Innotek IUC-4100/IUC-5100 need recharging about once a month. The disposable batteries last 2-3 months.

Some (but not all) of the systems let you set a different correction level for each dog. For your two dogs, the PetSafe Stubborn or the SportDog SDF-100A would be a good choice and both feature independent correction.

The signal in a wired containment system can indeed penetrate through the soil and accumulated snow – you just need to turn up the boundary width dial when you get the accumulation to provide more power to the line. Up to a foot of snow is not a problem, but if it is a lot more than that you can have problems getting a clear and consistent signal.

Temperature doesn’t tend to be an issue with the wire, exposure to strong sunlight (UV) tends to shorten the lifespan from about 10 year to 5 years.

Yolanda Z August 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm

I just adopted a Lakeland Terrier and a Wheaten Terrier this week. My whole backyard is fenced in. I do, however, have a concern when my landscaper comes. What is the best way to contain the dogs if they do happen to get outside of the gate? I would want to put something about 5 feet outside of the gate. I’m talking less than 12′ wide span. There are cement pavers and lots of bushes, so it would be difficult digging underneath. Is there a system that would best suit my purposes. Thanks.

ADMIN – Hi Yolanda,

Try one of the wireless outdoor dog containment pods. You put one of these near the gate, and it would give you a quick and easy way to block that small area.

Connie August 23, 2011 at 8:51 pm

I am preparing to put in the SportDog fence and have an area that I would like to bury it deeper than 4 inches. Is there a max. on how deep you can bury your wire? This area stays damp and a tractor mows it that could interfere with it if it isn’t buried a little deeper.

Thanks, Connie

Admin- Hi Connie,

You will be very flexible when it comes to the depth of the wire. On the transmitter itself, you will change the signal strength projecting off of the wire to fit your needs. Once the wire is buried, you would simply take the collar with the provided tested and set the boundary width.

Crystal S August 25, 2011 at 3:19 pm

Hi it looks like a lot of great info. What do you recommend for 2 Shiba Inu’s? The yard isn’t that big..but they do not allow fencing in the housing area and I am trying to find another alternative.

ADMIN – Hi Crystal,

With Shiba Inu’s the Innotek IUC-4100 would be a good choice. With long hair dogs, getting the collar properly situated so it is touching the skin can be tricky, the Innotek collar-fit mode helps a lot with that task, letting you know when you have the collar on correctly.

Sheri August 25, 2011 at 10:21 pm

Hello, We have a German Shepard pup. We live on a cattle ranch and off a fairly busy camper road in the summer months but for the winter we get up to 4 feet in places. Looking at approx 1.5 acre. We do have on one side a corral that is used in the winter and spring that has electric wire. We also have a border collie that needs to be tied up or he runs off and brings home friends. What would be a good system that we could install as having someone come out here is not an option. On both sides though there is bush. Even between our house and the corrals. Oh and at the bottom of the property is a large creek, and shepards seem to like the water or at least all that I have did. Hmm, I think thats it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Sheri

ADMIn – Hi Sheri,

For a German Shepherd and a Border Collie, on a property that gets a lot of snow accumulation, the Sport SDF-100A would be a good choice. (http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/review-sportdog/)

The SportDog has independent correction so you can adjust the correction for each dog separately which you are likely to need with that much difference in size between teh dogs. The system also has a lot of power in reserve which is good for properties with heavy snow.

Fence NJ August 31, 2011 at 8:17 am

HI – I have a German Shepherd and confused with choosing a correct solution. i have 1.5-2 acres and doing small gardening in one side about 0.75 acres. My property is surrounded by neighbors houses from 2 sides and other two sides margin with road. i don’t want my dog to run across neighbors properties and also on my gardening. So what is the best solution can i have to overcome this problems. Thank you

ADMIN – Hi Fence NJ,

You can create a custom layout for your dog fence by laying out the boundary wire in a configuration that contains the dog within your property but also blocks the dog from going into your garden.

Take a look at our Installation–> Layouts pages (http://www.dogfencediy.com/installation/plan/) for some ideas. If you email us a diagram of your layout we would be happy to give you some more specific ideas.

TJ September 2, 2011 at 11:45 am

What type of fence would you recommend for a Bernese Mountain Dog? (lots of hair)

Admin- Hi TJ,

A great fence for your Bernese will be the Innotek IUC-4100. The IUC-4100 collar is a nice slim-fit rechargeable. A great feature about the IUC-4100 collar is that it will give you indicator beeps letting you know that the collar is making good contact with the dog’s neck. If the standard probes that come with the collar are not long enough to penetrate your Bernese’s thick coat, Innnotek does offer longer probes for heavily coated dogs.

Keith September 6, 2011 at 9:45 pm

Hello- Love the video product reviews! I’m training my dog (Australian Cattle Dog/Jack Russell Terrier ) with the Micro-iDT PLUS system from DT Systems. Do you know of any in ground fence system that would be compatiable with the collar used on the DT System?

ADMIN – Hi Keith,

Afraid that none of the dog fence systems are going to be compatible with the DT systems training collar (or any other dedicated training collar). The only dual purpose collars are the Innotek IUC-5100 collars.

Leslie September 9, 2011 at 9:23 pm

Are the wires for Innotek & Petsafe compatable? I’m thinking I should get the Innotek basic system that is fairly inexpensive to see if our new dog can be trained. He is a dachshund-terrier (??) mix and 12 lbs at 9 months old. He seems to be pretty stubborn and after having him for 7 weeks we are not making any progress at potty training so I have my doubts about our ability to train and his ability to learn. I thought if we seem to be making progress with the Innotek system and need the smaller collar that is available with the Petsafe Little Dog system that we could spend the money and buy the better collar separately. Thanks for your assistance.

ADMIN – Hi Leslie,

The wire for all systems in intercompatible. However, note that the systems themselves are not intercompatible. So if you wanted to later use a PetSafe Little Dog Collar, you could keep the old wire, but would have to switch out the system as well as the collar.

I would start with the PetSafe Little Dog or Innotek IUC-4100, my intuition is that the basic Innotek with only one correction level would be too strong for a 12lb Terrier / Dachshund mix – the correction on that collar is set for a midsize dog. I don’t think you will have any trouble training the dog, the correction motivates even the most stubborn dogs. And in the unlikely event it doesn’t work for you, you can send it back.

Shawn September 9, 2011 at 10:28 pm

HI I have 2 dogs that i would like to put in an invisible fence. I had a cheap one from Walmart but it just does not do the job. The wire is about 5 acres. What does an extra collar cost for the pet safe stubborn and would that be a good choice? How hi does the shock go because the dogs tend to just run across the cheap one.Thanks For the help

ADMIN – Hi Shawn,

Happy to make a recommendation, tell me a little more about the dogs (age, size, breed, temperament).

The extra collars on the PetSafe Stubborn cost $74.95.

It is not usually the case that we just need to turn up the correction. It is usually a problem with the system, training, or the collar not being properly fitted. Lets start with some diagnostics. What kind of system do you have now? How wide is the boundary currently set? If you test the boundary with the collar, does it work reliably? What is the dog’s reaction when they cross the boundary – do they look like they are getting the correction?

Hayley September 10, 2011 at 7:22 am

Hi! I am looking to use a wireless system for my very active Sheltie. He is a little over one year old and always runs to the neighbors house to potty and play with her dog since the neighbor dog has to stay in her yard due to the invisible fence. I do not want to spend $1500 on a fence so I am looking for the BEST alternative for my pup. What do you recommend?

Also, my property is only .10 acres and this would only be used for the front yard which is .3 acres and if possible it would be nice for the system to overlap my neighbors so my Shetie may still go over to play as our properties do connect. My neighbor has no issue with this.

ADMIN – Hi Hayley,

If the dog has never used a dog fence system before, I would recommend a wired system over wireless. The wired systems have much more consistent boundaries which makes training easy. For a Sheltie, something like the Innotek IUC-4100 would be a good choice, because has small and has a fit detector that will help you get the collar fitted which is often a challenge on long-hair dogs.

If you want to use a wireless system, the Havahart Radial is the best of breed.

With the wired systems, you would just run the dog fence wire so that it covered both your and your neighbor’s yards. With most wireless systems you would be limited to a circular boundary with your house being the center of the circle. The Havahart Custom will let you do custom boundaries, but would have trouble with such a small yard.

Diane September 12, 2011 at 11:27 am

We have two 9 month old pups, that I want to keep out of the flower beds. Is there something that will work for us? I would also like to keep them from the patio furniture and cushions but I think I am dreaming now. They are both mixed breeds weighing between 45 and 55 lbs. Full of energy and still destructive and diggers. thanks

ADMIN – Hi Diane,

To keep the dogs out of flower beds, the Pawz-Away Outdoor Pods will do the trick and should be much easier and cheaper than a full dog fence system. You can operate the pod either wirelessly or with a short wire loop to keep the dogs out of small area like flower beds and outdoor furniture.

Shawn September 12, 2011 at 10:53 pm

I currently have a guardian pet system. I have a jack Russel and a Fox terrier. Is this system good on 5 acres of land? And where can you buy collars and are they adjustable strengths? Thanks for the help

ADMIN – Hi Shawn,

What particularly Guardian system do you have? I don’t know that Guardian systems are available widely any more. But, with most of the Guardian inground systems, you can use any of the PetSafe inground dog fence collars.

Lisa September 16, 2011 at 9:05 pm

Hi, I have a squirrel obsessed pointer in a 3000sq ft yard. which product would you recommend? thanks! Lisa

ADMIN – Hi Lisa,

With a pointer, the Innotek IUC-4100 would be a good choice. As to the squirrel obsession, work with that in Step 3 of the training by trying to do the training when the squirrels are most active. Leaving some food out for them should also help.

Jeff September 19, 2011 at 7:49 am

I currently have a Petsafe inground fence system. We recently added a 10lb shih-tzu to the family and are looking for a collar for her. Would the “Petsafe Pawz Away” collar work with the inground system? Are the inground and wireless collars the same?
ADMIN – Hi Jeff,

The best collar for a small dog will be the PetSafe Little Dog Collar. The collar is designed for dogs 12 pounds and under. The Pawz away collar and wireless collars are not compatible with the PetSafe in-ground fences.

Joe R. September 21, 2011 at 5:08 pm

I have a 2 yrs lab/chow mix and a 4 yrs lab/rottweiler mix they are 75 and 65 lbs. I already have a 6 ft vinyl fence, but they have been digging under it for quite some time. I had the innotek basic system but it did good only for a couple of months. Battery kept running out and one of the receivers stopped working. Also, one of my dogs (lab/chow) keep running through it. My yard is very small about .20 acres what’s the best system to contain these two very active dogs without taking away too much of their already limited space. My fence is up to the property line, so how can i separate the wires from one another on whichever system you recommend? Can i separate the wires by running one along the bottom of the fence and one along the top of the fence? Thanks!

ADMIN – Hi Joe,

With the Chow and the Rottweiler in there, you may want something with a stronger correction than the Innotek basic. The PetSafe Stubborn would be a good choice. But, as always on such a strong system, start on the lower settings (medium, or medium-low seems about right) and only move up if necessary.

With a six foot high fence, you can indeed get sufficient separation to make a big U-shaped loop by running the wires along the top and bottom of the fence.

Catherine September 22, 2011 at 8:10 pm

We have 2 dogs that need to use an underground fence for security when in the large front yard of our property. One of our dogs is a year old 6lb Chihuahua and the other is an 11 month old 86lb lab. Our main concern is keeping the Chihuahua from running off of our property when playing in the yard. I found that PetSafe has a cat fence that’s great for short haired cats (and suits 6lb pets) and seems like it would be perfect. I’m torn between the PetSafe small dog fence or the cat fence…the cat fence is about $50 cheaper and I don’t really know what the difference is. Any advise would be greatly appreciated!

ADMIN – Hi Catherine,

You could get by with the cat fence with a Chihuahua, but it has a couple of differences that make it less suitable. It has a breakaway collar, which can tear off if your dogs like to roughhouse or tumble around, and the correction levels tend to be on the low side even fro small dogs.

Kathy September 26, 2011 at 2:27 am

I have three dogs at the moment, and am planning on getting my fourth next summer. I have about 1 acre of land that I am considering putting underground fencing on so that my dogs have plenty of room to run and play. I have a chihuahua mix (about 7 lbs), a Pit (about 85-90 lbs), and a Doberman (about 65lbs). The chihuahua usually runs free, no problem and is very easy to train. The Pit never leaves my side and will wait by my door for me. The problem with him is that EVERYONE is afraid of him, and if I leave in a car, he wants to follow. He is also very easy to train. The Doberman, she is very hyper, and very hard to train. When she runs, she is so fast and so skiddish, she is very hard to catch. Her previous owners had the underground fencing, and they said as soon as she would be corrected, she would cower and not move like someone beat her. So I know she is very afraid of the correction, but pays no attention to the warning. I need a system that can handle all three, plus the fourth that I will be getting next summer (which is a male doberman). What do you recommend?

ADMIN – Hi Kathy,

With that menagerie, the PetSafe systems are good, because you can use a variety of collars suitable for each dog with the same system.

I would suggest a PetSafe Stubborn Dog Fence system. Use PetSafe Stubborn collars for the Pit, Doberman, and future Doberman. Use a PetSafe Little Dog collar for the Chihuahua.

You can reduce a lot of the skittishness by doing the preliminary training where the dog is learning how to respond to the beep (turn and retreat) without the pressure of the correction. This makes the correction much easier on the dog because the dog knows why it happened and how to turn it off.

Danielle September 26, 2011 at 11:04 am

Hello! I am considering buying an invisible fence. We really don’t know anything about them. We live on approx. 1/4 acre, double lot in a busy neighborhood and across the street from a school. we have a friendly boxer (70lbs) but we are also going to be getting a mastiff/black lab mix who is already larger than my boxer, shes 10months. Although they are both friendly it is important to keep them in the yard. My boxer loves to chase squirrels and is used to roaming over 100 acres of land (previous house). Our lot is level, and we would like to have the fence go all the way around the house so they can be let out into the front yard as well as the back yard. What kind of set up would you recommend? Thank you!

ADMIN – Hi Danielle,

With a boxer and a Mastiff, one of the stronger systems like the PetSafe Stubborn would be a good choice. Note, that while Boxers and Mastiffs often don’t respond at the lower correction levels – we should not assume that is the case with every individual dog so should start on the lower correction levels and work our way up only if we need to.

BO October 3, 2011 at 3:34 pm

Which system do you suggest for a 8 mo. old 75lb german shepherd, an adult 20lb schnauzer, 1 yr old 35lb mixed pittbull, 2 malteese weighing 10-12 lbs each? The house sits on top of a hill (.25 acres flat on top) with about 3 acres sloping downhill. The dogs will not be outside at the same time, but need to have a fence/collars system that adapts to all. Thanks

ADMIN – Hi BO,

PetSafe has a good multi-dog system. What makes it particularly neat is that you can use the collars incompatibly, so you can pick the best collar for each dog instead of going with a one-size fits-all collar.

I would get a PetSafe Stubborn system, and use the included PetSafe Stubborn collar with the German Shepherd. With the Pitbull, I would use another PetSafe Stubborn Collar. With the Schnauzer, a PetSafe Deluxe collar. And with the two Maltese, PetSafe Little Dog collars.

john October 9, 2011 at 7:46 am

Are there any indoor transmitters (for couch areas, etc) that work with the sportdog collars?

Thanks!

ADMIN – Hi John,

Unfortunately, there is not.

Torrey October 9, 2011 at 5:00 pm

I have a pet safe wireless system. If I install a inotek underground wired fence will it interfere with our wireless fence system? We want to keep one of our dogs contained to the back yard and cannot do it with the wireless fence system.

ADMIN – Hi Torrey,

You should not receive any interference problems with that setup.

Nancy V. October 9, 2011 at 6:13 pm

Hi, we recently moved to a home with about 3 acres and our 8 year-old 50lb. Standard Poodle is running off to the neighbors. My concern is that he is a very delicate flower. Once he slipped on the stairs down to the back door and he had to have someone escort him down those stairs from that day forward. I am worried that even a mild correction will keep him from wanting to go out in the yard. Any advise?
Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Nancy,

Yes. Our training methodology is designed to be altered to fit your dog’s temperament. The first week of training involves teaching your dog the proper behavior with no correction. It’s treat based, which works well with timid dogs. When your dog is ready to move to the second phase of training, we recommend starting at the lightest correction. For timid dogs, one correction is all it takes to know that they do not want to step past the training flags. After you allow the first correction make sure to continue training without letting them receive a correction.

For you Poodle, the Innotek 4100 would be a great fit. To make sure your dog is receiving the lowest possible correction, we advice attaching a resistor to the collar to reduce the correction level by as much as 75%. If you buy a fence through us, simply let us know you’re interested in the resistors and we can send them out to you for free. Here’s a brief video that describes the in’s and out’s of the resistor: http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/innotek-ultrasmart-iuc-4100/resistor-hack/

Donald October 19, 2011 at 3:38 am

Hi. I was wondering when/if you will be doing a review on the newest version of the “Smart Dog”, also known as W-227.

our dog keeps climbing our chain link fence and getting out and we are looking for an invisible fence that we can simply attach to our chain link fence to keep the dog from climbing. we dont want a bunch of features or anything, just the bare minimum since we already have a real fence and we cant afford to spend more than about $100. Will you do a review of the new version of this fence that got such a bad review before? or should we just buy it and hope for the best? thank you.

ADMIN – Hi Donald,

We don’t currently plan to review the new Smart Dog at this time. The continuing problem with the Smart Dog is that there is no support from the manufacture. If at some point you need replacement parts, you’re best option is to buy the system all over again. For 20 dollars more, I’d highly recommend the Innotek 2000. It is much more reliable and should be sufficient for what you need:

Travis Gillitzer October 22, 2011 at 10:20 am

I have a back yard that is completely fenced minus a stretch that is about 15 ft long between the house and the property line on the south side of my house. I’m looking to install a fence to cover that area. How do you recommend installing? Put a loop around the entire yard?

ADMIN – Hi Travis,

The boundary wire will need to make a complete loop. Your best option to fence in the open selection of your yard would be to install the wire in our single sided boundary wire layout plan. (See out Installation –> Layouts pages for more information)

Audra October 22, 2011 at 10:18 pm

I recently had an outlet installed near the outlet that my Petsafe transmitter is plugged into. Ever since I plugged my freezer into this new outlet, the transmitter has been beeping. If I unplug the freezer, the transmitter is fine. Do I need to have the electric redone and moved further away, or will it still be disfunctional with my freezer anywhere in the garage? The transmitter only quits as soon as the motor starts running on the freezer…not just when it is plugged in. Thanks!

ADMIN – Hi Audra,

Yes, it’s a proximity issue. I recommend you relocate your transmitter at least 10 feet away from any appliances or electrical panels.

Jon Randall October 29, 2011 at 4:03 pm

We have a French Bulldog and a Husky Wolf cross and I was wondering what the best fence would be for a 5 acre area. I have been looking but cant find anything that would work for the size difference between the two dogs. Any suggestions?

ADMIN – Hi Jon,

For that much difference in size, the PetSafe systems are good choice because you can use different collars with each dog. For the Wolf-Hybrid the PetSafe Stubborn collar would be a good choice. For the French Bulldog, something smaller like the PetSafe Deluxe collar would work well.

Stefan K. November 1, 2011 at 4:16 pm

I live in the flood zone of the Red River and where I am wanting to put my invisible fence could be completely underwater for 2-3 weeks at a time. I am wondering if the wire and the splices can be underwater for this length of time and still be operational after the water recedes.

On a different note, I read on some comments above that some of the collars that are not rechargeable can be switched to become rechargeable? I am wanting to purchase the petsafe stubborn dog fence. Can this battery become rechargeable? Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Stefan,

The wire can go happily underwater for a couple of weeks. The splices can also go underwater, but it is better if you can place the splice points in sections out of the water. If the splices have to go in the water, no big deal, just be sure to get a good seal with the waterproof gel when you make the splice.

The PetSafe Stubborn collar uses a regular 9V battery. To make the collar rechargeable, just get a couple of rechargeable 9V batteries and a recharger.

Dan Head November 4, 2011 at 6:24 pm

What is the best fence system for an Aussie?

ADMIN – Hi Dan,

There are many fences that would well with your Aussie, but we believe the Innotek IUC 4100 is the best fence for your value. It’s rechargeable and the collar is not bulky. It’s a great fit for dogs over 12 lbs.

Denise November 14, 2011 at 10:16 am

We have the IUC 4100 for our two Boxers and love it. Most of the time they don’t have their collars on but they still respect the boundaries.

I am interested in the indoor zone for my kitchen and also the outdoor zone/rock for a wet spot we have in the front yard.

Can the indoor zone be plugged in or does it only run on batteries. If it is only batteries, any idea how long the batteries last, or is it determined by the amount of times the zone is challenged?

On the outdoor rock, how long do the batteries last on it? Is it determined by the amount of times the zone is challenged? What about moisture? Is it adversely affected by moisture? Will it work in freezing temperatures?

THANKS for your help!!!

Admin-Hi Denise,

The indoor zone operates on (3) AA batteries only. It has a running life of about 6 months. The outdoor Pawz away rock under normal conditions can operate on D batteries up to one year. Test the system every few months to ensure it is working properly. The system will operate in cold weather; however, the battery life will die much quick in colder weather.

james November 16, 2011 at 12:04 am

Hi
After checking your website I’m interested in the Innotek 4100 to keep our Rotti on the property. Although the product is available locally, the prices are an absolute rip off. Do you ship to Australia, and if so, are there any issue with the power supply (US 110-120v; Aust is 220-240v)?

ADMIN – Hi James,

Please contact Innotek at 1-800-732-2677. They will have better info for you. They have locations in Australia to buy their fence. If you received your fence from us, you’d not have warranty coverage.

Ronald November 30, 2011 at 10:38 am

I have used the Innotek IUC-4100 with 2 collars on about 1.5 wooded acres. It was working fine for a while, but started to get “ghost” triggers. The system would go off on the dogs while in the house etc. Since it is a wooded lot, we also had some problems putting the lines in-ground and had some breakage. Since the dogs have been without for a while, they have discovered that there is no fence anymore and are running away. My wife is begging me to put in another system (I still have the main unit), but I am not sure what to do with the interference. Is the Innotek IUC-4100 the best option here? Is there is an easy way to find a breakage, if not immediately evident. Also are there any recommendations on how to put the lines underground in a wooded area (special tools etc)? Thank you, Ronald

ADMIN – Hi Ronald,
The Innotek IUC 4100 is very good fence. The random interference could be caused by several possibilities: the location of the transmitter and wire from electrical appliances, circuit breakers, and any other cables in and around your home. Switching to a different brand of fence may or may not make a difference. The 4100 operates around 8K while the PetSafe fence operate on 10K. This frequency change may make a difference. For your installation needs, I’d recommend upgrading to #14 wire if possible. #14 rarely breaks at all and would hold up well against roots and such. Try and locate a mini-cable installer. A good brand is the EZ Trench which has several models you may be able to rent at a local tool rental shop. They do a great job and can often cut through those pesky roots. The process for locating a clean break in the wire is the same for both Innotek and PetSafe brands. The difference is the application. We provide a wire break kit to assist in locating breaks on a Innotek system. PetSafe has their own break locator to accomplish the same thing. Basically, after setting up the test, you walk the boundary with an AM radio. The radio picks up the signal and broadcasts a unique beating sound. You’re listening for the beat to fade to radio static, which means your in an area that lacks the fence frequency. The break should be within several feet of this. If you have partially broken boundary wire, this test most likely will not work. You’d be left with walking the line and locating sections that seem at the highest risk and physically inspecting the wire.

Christie November 30, 2011 at 11:27 pm

I have a Great Dane and a Basset Hound and live on 2 acres, only 1 of which I want the dogs to be limited to. What would you recommend for me? I keep going back and looking at the Stubborn dog system due to the fact that 1. I have the Dane, and 2. the Basset has been stubborn about everything else I have ever tried to train him such as house breaking and obedience.

ADMIN – Hi Christie,

The PetSafe Stubborn would be a good choice. One nice thing about the system is that the correction levels are independent so you can adjust the level for each dog separately. With the Stubborn it is important to start on the lower levels – it is rare that a dog even the size of a Great Dane would need the highest level of correction, and it is very unlikely that the Basset Hound would need anything more than the medium or medium-low levels.

Craig T. December 1, 2011 at 9:26 am

We adopted a 1yr old coonhound. We have approximately 1/2 acre with some of it wooded. Can an electric fence contain such a prey driven breed? We would also like to cross the electric boundary to walk her along a trail behind the property. How is that achieved? Thank you!

ADMIN – Hi Craig,

A dog fence will work fine with a coonhound. As always the key is to make sure you are consistent with the training over the two-week training period. If there are any particular temptation, such as prey drive, make sure you test them in Stage 3 of the training. (For example working with the dog in the morning and evening when critters are most likely to be around – of leaving out some food to encourage their presence).

Mike Kilinski December 4, 2011 at 3:25 pm

I have two goldens in a underground system and a shepherd in another underground system area. A stray bulldog showed up and plays in both areas, but now is also going to the neighbors house. Can I use a wireless system for the bulldog so he can still play with the other dogs but stay on my property?

ADMIN – Hi Mike,

You can indeed use a wireless system in conjunction with wired systems. The wireless system would be independent of the wired systems so that the wireless range could indeed overlap both underground systems that you have.

Ron December 4, 2011 at 11:33 pm

Hi, We just got a 1 year-old Norwegian Elkhound rescue. This is our 3rd Elkhound and we thought we really knew the breed. However, this one might be mixed with German Shepherd (my wife’s guess), Husky or Deer. She leaps like a gazelle and easily clears our 36″ fence. We need to keep her in our backyard – no difficulties or barriers – and I’d prefer to not bury the cable but instead attach it to our fence, maybe even cover it with small pvc. What do you recommend for a sensitive, but extremely active/agile Elkhound? Thanks.

ADMIN – Hi Ron,

Running the wire along the fence would work fine. Covering the wire with PVC before attaching the wire to the fence would work, but is not necessary.

For an Elkhound, something like the Innotek IUC-4100 would work well. One of the challenges for breeds with that thick hair is getting the collar on correctly, the collar fit function on the Innotek is a very handy when it comes to getting the collar correctly fitted.

Maurya December 8, 2011 at 9:52 pm

I have a 10 month old, 65 lb chocolate lab/pit cross. We live on 10 acres with is perimeter fenced and run a small horse boarding facility. The pup has taken to following vehicles out our main gate, which is solar powered. In addition, all of our horse pastures have electric fencing to contain the horses, either as a top wire or three strand electric fencing. I want to install an in-ground electric perimeter fence to contain the dog, but am concerned about potential interference with existing horse fencing. Is this a problem? If not, what in-ground electric fence system to you recommend for my set-up? Thanks in advance.

Admin- Hi Maurya,

A great system for your Lab/Pit cross will be the SportDog SDF-100A. The system is great for sport/large breed of dogs. You could install the boundary wire close to the electric horse fence with confidence. You will not experience any interference issues. The SportDog system comes with 1000 feet of boundary wire and you will need a total of 3000 feet to cover 10 acres.

Ashley December 27, 2011 at 4:48 pm

Hello there, great website! I’ve got two golden retrievers and a shih tzu. On three sides of the house were surrounded by woods that the dogs love to play in but they’ve run into the road out front a few times. Is there a type of fence that would only limit them from going by the road- that way we could still go hiking and swim in the creek.

ADMIN – Hi Ashley,

You can create a long thin loop along the road (with opposite sides of the loop 6+ feet apart). (See the Single Sided Layout in the Layouts Page in our Installation Section) The risk however with this type of non-enclosed layout is that the dogs can go around the area you have blocked out.

Robin B December 29, 2011 at 1:24 pm

I have a Dog Guard wired system that has been installed about ten years. I need another collar now. Are there any collars that are compatible with that system?

ADMIN – Hi Robin,

Unfortunately there is not anything compatible with the Dog Guard system. You can only get the collars directly from Dog Guard. If you want to use another brand of collar, your only option is to replace the transmitter with another brand.

Michael P. January 6, 2012 at 7:37 am

I have two French Bulldogs that weigh around 20 lbs. I know the collars on the PetSafe Little Dog are to small to fit around their necks, what wireless and in ground system would you recommend of these types of dogs? Thanks in advance!

ADMIN – Hi Michael,

If possible, use a wired system – the field it creates is much more reliable which makes training the dogs much easier.

For French Bulldogs, something with a small collar like the Innotek IUC-4100 system would be a good choice. For wireless, the Havahart Radial would be your best option, although the collar is going to be bigger than optimal.

nick January 9, 2012 at 11:05 am

Hello, I have a 8 month old yellow lab who is closing in on 85lbs. Huge paws so he may be getting a little bigger but most likely close to full weight. We live on about an acre with a somewhat traditional lot (rectangle shaped) on the corner of a street and cul-d-sac. What would be the best option with rechargeable batteries (if available). I normally take him out without a leash and he is fine but when the kids or wife take him out he can sometimes not come back in and we do not want him to be hit by a car.

ADMIN – Hi Nick,

With a Labrador you have a lot of good options because the dogs tend to train easily and are responsive to the correction. If you wanted something rechargeable, the Innotek IUC-4100 would be a good choice. It is a good consistent transmitter, has rechargeable collars, and has a useful collar-fit feature that lets you know when you have the collar on correctly.

SHANNON January 19, 2012 at 7:17 pm

I have just built a home where we had a fence installed 6 foot high as I have a Boston Terrier that is registered as a dangerous dog (he killed a neighbors cat at our old home). We have got to keep him confined to our yard. Within days of moving in he dug UNDER the fence and introduced himself to out new neighbors cat. We had a chain link fence at our old home that we also had to put a electric fence as he was jumping it. However, he spent everyday testing it. This yard is much larger and I would like to install it about 3 acres behind our house and around the front (he is a door bolter too!) I also have a 120lb Saint Bernard who runs the fence line and is already tearing it up and may want to fit her with something as well. Do you have any advice?

ADMIN – Hi Shannon,

The PetSafe systems work well in situation where there are two dogs of very different size, because you can mix their collars with their systems to get each dog on a collar that works well for them. I would use a PetSafe Stubborn system, and use the included collar with the Saint Bernard. With the Boston Terrier – if he is over 12 pounds use a PetSafe Deluxe collar. If he is under 12 pounds use a PetSafe Little Dog collar.

Note that since you already have a fence in place, attaching the dog fence wire to the existing fence would be an easy way to install the fence without doing any digging.

Frank January 20, 2012 at 2:56 am

We live on about an acre of property surrounded by a physical fence on three sides. The front side is unfenced, and there is a 300-foot driveway leading from our property to the road. I would only need to wire a dog fence system across the length of the front yard. I read your comments and suggestions for the owners of Pyrenees, and as a pyr owner, I too had some of those same questions. However, there is one question I am concerned with that I have not seen addressed in any comment. Pyrenees are a stubborn breed. Even after training, if he bolts towards the boundary, receives the shock, and continues through, would he be shocked trying to return home?

ADMIN – Hi Frank,

A dog will indeed be corrected when they attempt to return. Any time they are in the boundary area the correction is activated.

The trick is to do a good job in the initial training. If we do our job right, the dog will have no concept that they can run through. They will just assume the correction field continues on indefinitely. That is why we focus so much attention on the training, and then testing the dog under controlled conditions to make sure they develop the habit of turning and retreating on hearing the beep. Once the habit is deeply instilled, you tend to get blind obedience to the boundary.

Gwendolyn January 22, 2012 at 9:19 pm

I have a 5 year old Akita who has defeated every attempt I have made to contain her. I live on 1/2 acre and would like to restrict her to the back yard, which is about 2/3 of the property. She weighs about 90 lbs, is very obedient when contained, but ignores me when she is gets loose. What is the best system for me to use?

ADMIN – Hi Gwendolyn,

The Innotek IUC-4100 woudl be a good choice with an Akita. The collar-fit feature on the Innotek lets you know when the collar is properly fitted. It comes in handy with Akita’s, because their fur is so thick getting the collar properly fitted can be a challenge. You could also use a PetSafe Stubborn system, it is a little cheaper, just be sure to keep it turned down to the lower correction levels.

Debby January 23, 2012 at 11:50 am

We are in the process of considering adopting a 3 yr old bloodhound. what system would be good to contain her in about 8 acres? Also, it is the middle of winter in upstate NY so how do we put the system in now? Debby

ADMIN – Hi Debby,

For a Bloodhound on 8 acres, the SportDog SDF-100A or the Innotek IUC-4100 would both be good choices. The SportDog is a little cheaper, but is a little bigger and uses a disposable battery. The Innotek is a little more expensive, but includes a rechargeable battery, and has a collar about half the size as the SportDog. Both are reliable and with the training will get the job done.

Typically in winter in colder climates, customers staple the wire down or hold it down in a few places with bricks. Then when the snow cover melts away and the ground unfreezes, you can do the permanent installation.

FYI – wait about a month after the adoption to start the dog fence training if possible. It is easier to do the training for both you and the dog if you have started to develop a relationship. If you need to do it straight away to keep the dog safe, that it is not ideal, but not a big deal either.

Dwayne Roberts January 25, 2012 at 2:00 pm

I just had an electrical engineer for a prestigious computer chip manufacturer call for a wired fence. He had spent a thousand dollars on the Havahart system, (configurable system) and had two dogs. He spent a good portion of a weekend trying to get the Havahart system to configure to his yard. His best effort, and we are talking about a highly intelligent man with multiple patents in the electrical engineering field yielded a weak arch into his backyard covering maybe 50% of the available space the dogs should have had available. In addition the field fluctuation was over 6 feet difference from hour to hour in his estimation as he was trying to set flags for the dogs. We wired up a fence in 3 hours for two dogs for just under $500. Wireless systems are not as advertised… read the troubleshooting brochure on the manufacturers website before purchasing and see how different it is compared to their homepage!

ADMIN – Hi Dwayne,

We agree with you that the wired fences are much superior to the wireless fences. If a customer is at all able to use a wired fence, it is by far the better choice. As you mention the field fluctuations on the wireless systems make setting the boundaries and training the dogs a challenge. Wired more than makes up for the inconvenience with the superior performance (and lower cost).

Adrian Davis January 31, 2012 at 3:10 pm

I have read through all of the information on your web site but cannot find the answer to this question. I would like to create a containment area that starts and stops at the back door of my house. Ideally the wire would not have to be a closed loop. My dog likes to come in and out of the house frequently. I don’t what to have to go out and walk her across the boundary every time. What do you suggest?

ADMIN – Hi Adrian,

If you want to contain only the backyard, while still allowing the dog to freely enter and exit the house, there are three of options. First, you can run complete the loop by taking the wire up around the front of the house – close so the dog can’t actually go to the front, but allowing you to complete the loop. Second, you can complete the loop by running the wire up a downspout on one side of your house, then across the guttering and down the downspout on the other side. Third, you can make a big U-shaped look going around the three sides of your back yard, then doubling back on yourself six feet apart.

There is a lot more information, including diagrams on our Installation –> Layouts –> BackYard Only, section of our website.

James February 1, 2012 at 11:37 pm

We recently adopted a 3 month old Pointer/Border Collie mix. He is currently 15 lbs and growing most likely to 65. The Pointer Heritage may actually be Dalmatian but not sure. He has been trained to sit on command and wait for his meals to be placed in his feed bowl. He will then eat when given the verbal ok command. We are starting to train him to come. We are looking at purchasing the IUC-4100 for our 1/2 acre lot. Two questions:
1. Is 3 months too soon for this dog? He is currently living inside until we get the fence up and operational.
2. Is the IUC-4100 a good fit? Will it provide enough energy to protect the dog?

ADMIN – Hi James,

We ask our clients to try and wait till six months, because before that age most dogs don’t have sufficient attention span to do the training. Some dogs will be advanced and can be trained earlier. A good rule of thumb is when they can confidently do a sit/stay/come they are ready for the training. Your dog sounds advanced for his age, and should be ready in a month or two.

With those three breeds you mention, I don’t think you will have any problems with training. I find Border Collie mixes to be particularly easy to train because they are wicked smart and so eager to please their master. The 4100 would be good choice.

Karri February 4, 2012 at 1:10 pm

Hi – we have recently adopted an 8 month old Great Dane / Boxer mix (he’s 65 lbs now). He is very energetic, and loves to run and play. Over the last week or so, he has begun to wander, and is very stubborn about coming back! We are interested in the DIY fencing system, but have some questions as to which system would be optimal. We have 13 acres which is mostly fenced (however he wanders in the fields across the street) so we would probably have to do a combination of above and under ground? Also, we have a 17 lb Schnauzer/Dacshund mix as well, and will soon be adding a Lab puppy to the mix. What type of system would you recommend? Thank you!

ADMIN – Hi Karri,

With that variety of dogs, and that size yard the SportDog SDF-100A would be a good choice. The SportDog can handle up to 100 acres, and you can also use the PetSafe wired containment fence collar in conjunction with the SportDog system so each dog can have a collar and correction level appropriate to their needs. I would use the included collar with the Great Dane. A PetSafe Deluxe collar with the Schnauzer mix, and another SportDog Collar with the Lab.

Running the wire a combination of above the ground (fence mounted I presume) and below the ground works fine.

Sue Wells February 10, 2012 at 12:50 am

We have a 7 lb. Pomeranian who keeps slipping through rabbit holes (dug under one poorly-designed fence) and onto a busy street. We are considering an electric fence option with only about 50 feet in length required. Best Suggestion?

Another thought is that ideally (in my fantasy dream world), if we could get a portable unit of some sort, the dog would have more freedom as we take him camping on the weekends (possibly 100 ft. perimeter). Do you know if: A: there is a portable unit that could be transported between home and camp? And B: suitable for small areas and small dogs. Any suggestions would be appreciated, as I really can’t seem to find the ideal product:/ Thanks!

ADMIN – Hi Sue,

For a small area like that and a small dog, you can try the Pawz Away Outdoor Pod. The system can use up to 150 feet of wire. To run it along the fence, you are going to want to create a long thin loop with a few feet of separation between the opposite sides of the loop. If the fence is over 4 feet tall (ideally 6 feet), you can run one length of the wire along the top of the fence and the return run along the bottom of the fence. The Pawz Away is not design for this purpose, but since you have such a small area to block off and a small dog it should do the trick. It will be much cheaper and easier to install than a full fence, and it is battery powered so you can take it camping with you.

The other option would be to get a PetSafe Little Dog Containment System. That will work much better having a superior collar and transmitter, but is not portable and is going to be about double the cost.

Criss February 15, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Hello, do you have any reviews on the Guardian PetSafe underground dog Fence?

ADMIN – Hi Criss,

We don’t have any reviews of the Guardian systems. They are older systems, I am not sure if they are still made?

Jamie February 17, 2012 at 3:41 pm

I am looking for a system that I can use for three dogs. A Great Pyrenees, Australian Blue Heeler and a shitz tzu. Which system would work best for this situation? Thanks for your help!

ADMIN – Hi Jamie,

The PetSafe Stubborn, Petsafe Deluxe and PetSafe Little Dog systems are inter-compatible, which is useful for dogs of very different sizes and temperaments. I would get a PetSafe Stubborn system and use the included collar with the Great Pyrenees. I would add an additional PetSafe deluxe collar for the Blue Heeler. And a PetSafe Little Dog collar for the Shih Tzu. I am presuming the small Shih Tzu is under 12 lbs, if they are over 12lbs, you should use a PetSafe Deluxe collar instead.

Ken Breeden February 19, 2012 at 10:26 am

I have two small dogs, i.e about 20lbs each. I take them in my rv with me traveling. Which system would work best to set up a small perimeter around the front of my trailer. Also the system would have to be easy enough to dismount and remount each time I moved to a different park.

ADMIN – Hi Ken,

Some of our RV customers will get one of the wired systems and staple the wire down around the ground to set up a quick temporary perimeter. For your dogs, teh Innotek IUC-4100 would be a good candidate because it has a small collar and can be powered off batteries for when you don’t have 110V power.

Some folks will also use a wireless system, but not that this can often have problems with the signal not getting through the metal sides of the RV. This means you sometimes need to place the transmitter on top of the RV to get is working. The PetSafe Wireless is a good economical choice, for the small scale perimeter you are going to be setting up.

Dee February 20, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Hi, We have 20 acres, that gets flooded in the spring, on rock (maybe 1 to 2 inches of earth ) and 1/3 of it is wooded. We get up to 1 to 2 feet of snow in the winter in some areas. It is mostly covered with wild grass and weeds. We also have severe thunder storms, lightning protection is a must. Our dogs are both mixed with poodle and will be over 60lbs. From what I have read the wireless seems not to work in our situation.
What would you recommend? I would like the option of using a vibrate mode if possible. Thanks

ADMIN – Hi Dee,

With larger dogs like yours, on a big property, the SportDog SDF-100A Dog Fence would be a good choice. The system can power 100 acres, so you have plenty of power in reserve which is useful when you get snow accumulation. The collar also has a vibrate function for warning the dogs prior to the correction.

jody jones February 22, 2012 at 11:00 am

Is it possible to add a remote to my ( 2 ) 4100 COLLARS? Which ones do I need?

ADMIN – Hi Jody,

Unfortunately you cannot add the remote to the 4100 collars. Only the 5100 collars will work with the remote control. So you would need to switch your collars out for 4100 collars.

Courtney February 25, 2012 at 9:50 am

We are moving and looking to get a DIY fence for our two dogs. We have an 11pd shih poo and a 28 pd cocker spaniel. The cocker spaniel is about 6 years old and we rescued her a year and half ago. She is very skittish as she is still very traumatized. Our shih poo has lots of energy and loves to run. What would be your recommendation for a wired system? Thanks so much in advance!!

Admin- Hi Courtney,

A great system for your Shih Poo and Cocker spaniel will be the PetSafe little dog system. You will use the Little dog collar for the small Shih and bundle in a deluxe collar for the Cocker spaniel. A great feature about the PetSafe Little dog system is that you will have independent correction levels for each dog. Since the cocker is really skittish, you might be able to only trainer her on level 1 which is a warning tone only and no correction will be given.

Mark Herrington February 27, 2012 at 1:07 am

I have a 7 month old Bouvier, and I live on two acres. One and half of it is wooded. I live in Alaska, currently there is about 3 to four feet of snow on the ground around the area. We have moose that travel through the woods frequently. How do the wired systems work in deep snow? If I use a wired system and install in now, would you recommend laying the wire on the snow for now and then cover it up in the spring? How tough is the wire, if I do lay this down on the snow now, I am concerned about moose stepping on it and breaking it. Do you have any thoughts pertaining to my situation. Thanks, Mark

ADMIN – Hi Mark,

The wired systems do not work as well where you have a large amount of accumulated snow. Once you get above 1-2 feet, the signal can become very inconsistent even if you turn up the boundary width dial. The wireless systems are a better bet if you need containment with that much snow on the ground. I would try something like the Havahart Radial and see if you get a good boundary field using the system before trying something wired.

If you do a wired system in winter, we recommend laying the wire on the ground and burying the wire when the ground thaws out.

The wire is very resilient, it would take a lot more than a moose stepping on it to break. But, I would be careful to weigh it in a few places, a moose could easily accidently drag the wire and move it out of place.

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