Dog Fence Reviews
This section reviews and compares the DIY dog fence systems. We review systems by Innotek, SportDog, PetSafe, Perimeter Technologies and Humane Contain. The comparison chart below summarizes our findings. Click on the model name or use the navigation menu of the left for a more detailed review of each system.
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PetSafe Ultrasmart PIG00-13619 |
Innotek IUC-5100 |
PetSafe Little Dog PIG00-10773 |
SportDog SDF-100A |
PetSafe Inground PIG00-13661 |
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| Reliability | Excellent | Excellent | Good | Excellent | Good |
| Rechargeable | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
| Correction Levels | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 |
| Battery Backup | Yes | Yes | No | No | No |
| Capacity | 25 acres | 25 acres | 25 acres | 100 acres | 10 acres |
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| Price | $299.95 | $339.95 | $269.95 | $239.95 | $159.95 |
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Innotek IUC-5100 full review |
PetSafe Little full review |
SportDog SDF-100A full review |
PetSafe PIG00-13661 full review |
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PetSafe Stubborn PIG00-10777 |
Perimeter Ultra PTPCC200 |
Dogtra EF-3000 |
Dogtek EF-4000 |
Innotek SD-2100 |
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| Reliability | Good | Good | Good | Good | Good |
| Rechargeable | No | No | Yes | No | Yes |
| Correction Levels | 5 | 1/3 | 5 | 8 | 3 |
| Battery Backup | No | No | No | No | Yes |
| Capacity | 10 acres | 5 acres | 40 acres | 2.5 acres | 25 acres |
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| Price | $204.95 | $159.95 to $204.95 | $249.95 | $149.95 | $209.95 |
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Perimeter Ultra full review |
Dogtra EF-3000 full review |
Dogtek EF-4000 full review |
Innotek SD-2100 full review |
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Innotek SD-3000 |
Innotek SD-2000 |
Humane Contain |
Smart Dog HT-023 |
Smart Dog HT-023 |
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| Reliability | Good | Good | Poor | Poor | Poor |
| Rechargeable | No | No | No | No | No |
| Correction Levels | 1 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
| Battery Backup | No | No | Yes | No | No |
| Capacity | 5 acres | 5 acres | 100 acres | 1 acre | 1 acre |
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| Price | $179.95 | $119.95 | $99.95 | $49.95 | $49.95 |
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Innotek SD-2000 full review |
Humane Contain full review |
Smart Dog HT-023 full review |
Smart Dog HT-023 full review |
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I have two Australian Shepherds. The male is mindful & I’ll bet will train easily. The girl is very strong headed & a Hoodeni sp. at getting out of containment. I am asking about the breeds pain tolerance, what kind of collars to get. I also see many systems for around $50.00 & then upwards to $200.00 +. The ones for 54.99 are 2013 Underground Waterproof 2 shock collar Electric Dog fence system. Not advertising a specific brand. It sounds like it is a 3 level, a warning beep, mild shock & then stronger shocks. Progressive Tone Stimulus.
Speed detection. Fits dogs from 20-100lbs up to 1.2 acre.
Can you help. I only want to do this once. Thanks, Laura
ADMIN – Hi Laura,
We took a look at those ultra-cheap systems, and they were terrible. They would randomly go off, where chronically unrelialbe, and the wire very thin and weak. We get lots of customer feedback that they are awful and should be avoided. We would avoid strongly advise you to avoid them.
Aussies, don’t usually need a lot by way of correction, but like all dogs benefit greatly from having a consistent reliable correction. The cheapest good system for Aussies would be the PetSafe Inground.
I have one dog collie/shepherd mix 55 lbs. We have recently moved and are trying to keep her out of the inground pool with no luck. What do you recommend? Thank you.
ADMIN – Hi Tiffani,
For a collie / german shepherd, the PetSafe Stubborn would be a good choice if the German Shepherd dominates (meaning she is likely to need a stronger correction), and the PetSafe Ultrasmart is a better choice if the Collie dominates (more sensitive dog). If in doubt, opt for the stronger PetSafe Stubborn, it can always be kept on the lower correction levels.
Hi – I have a few questions. I have a darling 12-month-old boxer who has started going up the road about 1/2 mile to neighbors who have children and playing with them. We live on 120 acres with horses and goats, so she has plenty to do here. She just loves people and if we are not outside, she heads that way. There would be a lot of trees, etc. to go through to put a fence up. I think we would only have to do it about 2,500 feet (one side of our property) because she only goes out on the driveway side. Do you think a fence will deter her? If so, what would you recommend? She is very sweet and knows she has done wrong when we go get her. However, the neighbor has called Animal Control and he gave me a warning. He said next time he got a call, the fine would be $200 to $1,200, more likely on the upper end since I had been given a warning. I cannot afford for her to mess up one time, so we are putting her in a pen at night and keeping her on a leash or in the house during the day. I cannot live this way, though. Any thoughts, suggestions, etc. would be appreciated. Thank you . LaDonna
ADMIN – Hi LaDonna,
You can run the dog fence along just one side, but it is not a great long-term solution, because usually the dog eventually learns that they can just go around.
I would prefer to see you run a complete loop around the area you want to contain him. You won’t be able to contain the full 120 acres, but you could easily do 50 acres using the SportDog SDF-100A.
Hello! What a great site! I have a 5 mos. old Alaskan Husky mix who is around 25lbs. and will probably end up being 50+ lbs. He is very energetic but seems to be pretty smart and somewhat obedient so far for a puppy. We live on an irregular lot with a wooded section and fences on three of the five sides, all in all it is around an acre to be fenced with a driveway at one end.
Which system would you recommend we go with? Thank you!
ADMIN – Hi Gary,
For a Husky, with their thick undercoat, the PetSafe Ultrasmart with it’s collar-fit detector works really well. One of the biggest challenges with a husky is making sure the collar is fitted correctly and that it is making contact with the dog’s skin. The Ultrasmart has a fit-mode that helps you do that.
I have a 3 year old Wolf-Husky named Milo. I want to know before purchasing the Innotek SD-2000, what connects the control box to the wire running around the specified pet area? Is it wireless, or wired directly to the box?
ADMIN – Hi Tyler,
It is a wired connection. You need to run the wire from the control box, out to the containment perimeter. If you want that section running from the control box to the perimeter to be non-active, you can make that happen by twisting the two wires together.
For a wolf-hybrid, I would suggest a stronger system such as the PetSafe Stubborn.
Do any of the fences allow your to let metal cages in them and metal poles.
ADMIN – Hi Chis,
All the wired fences will happily coexist with a metal cage. The wireless fences will work with a mesh-type metal cage, but not with a sheet-metal type cage. Neither wired, nor wireless would be bothered by a metal pole.
We have three dogs- a 70 lb boxer, a 30 pound long haired mixed breed and a 15 pound shih -tzu. We would like a fence that covers 1-2 acres. . Thanks so much for any advice that can be offered on the fence and collars that would be best for us to purchase with this wide range in the size of our dogs.
ADMIN – Hi Shawn,
With the range in sizes and temperament, the intercompatible PetSafe systems where you can mix collars would be a great choice. I would get the PetSafe Inground and use the InGround collars for the two smaller dogs. For the Boxer, I would add a PetSafe Stubborn collar.
MARY – Thanks for your response. Here is a little information about my own dogs, and the dogs that I am currently training. First I will tell you that I live in a subdivision out in the country on the lake with little outside traffic, and many dogs roam the neighborhood causing my own dogs to instinctively want to follow. My own dogs are scooter who is a toy poodle about fifteen pounds, and very obedient inside, but when he is outside often stubborn, and will take off through the neighborhood. This has led to a couple of bite injuries from other dogs. I also have T-Bone a seven year old Chow about 80 pounds that I rescued who never had any training and lived on a chain in his former owners backyard. He is learning slowly, but due to lack of training keeping him in the yard is very difficult especially because of the other dogs in our neighborhood. Then there is Buddie. He is a six month old American Pit Bull, and about fourty pounds, and our vet says he will be around 120 to140 pounds. He is very obedient, and seems to be understanding his limits, but if the other dogs run out of the yard, or dogs run by he instinctively wants to follow. The other dogs I train come in all shapes and forms, and I think it would be good to have some type of fence that I could use for all of them.
ADMIN – I would use a PetSafe Inground System, and use the included collar for the poodle. For the two bigger dogs, add a couple of PetSafe Stubborn collars.
Hi, I have three dogs a puppy pitbull a toy poodle and a seven year old chow, and I also run a puppy boot camp and do behavior training, and I am shopping for an electric fence.. What type of fence do you recommend for multiple dogs old enough, and functional for behavior training? I have been debating for awhile, and cannot make a decision.
ADMIN – Hi Mary,
If you are going to be having lots of different types of dogs on the system, the PetSafe Stubborn / PetSafe Inground / PetSafe Little Dog / SportDog SDF-100A are great choices, because the collars are intercompatible. This means you can always have the right collar for each addtional dog.
Happy to make a specific recommendation for your dogs, can you tell me a little more about the dogs in terms of weight and temperament.
Hi, We have a 6 year old golden retriever how loves to run away and explore our neighbors’ properties to we have to leash him each time he is outside. We would like to install an electric fence that would keep him inside our yard, so he can enjoy running freely with us without bothering our neighbors. Our yard goes around the house and is about 10,000 sq. feet. What would you recommend?
ADMIN – Hi Vasyl,
Golden retrievers are generally very receptive to the training, which opens up a lot of options. My top choice would be the PetSafe Ultrasmart. It has one of the smallest collars, is rechargeable, and has a special collar fitting mode that is helpful with long hair dogs like Goldens.
Hi, I have 2 dogs. A 70 pound German Shepherd who gets curious and wanders or will take off after a squirrel and our other dog is a lab/Beagle mix who is only 30-40 pounds and loves to explore. Both dogs can wear a medium collar. The mix dog is only 3.5 feet when he stands up on his hind legs.
I have a Junior Sport brand shock collar we have used on both dogs for training. The collar goes from 1/2 to 6. The German Shepard can be stubborn and at times take up to 5 at times before he decides to listen. A level 5 is painful to me but he is stubborn when he wants to be. Most of the time he does good at 4. Our mix breed dog is a lot more timid with the collar he only needs a 2 and at most a 3 on occasions before he listens/comes back.
The Property we are renting is a rectangle shape that is 138 feet wide by 240 feet long with a house on the front third that is 34 feet wide x 39 feet long.
I am not sure which way to go on this. I was thinking at first a wireless unit but the radius would cut off half the yard and run into the neighbors. An in ground unit seems to be the best choose, but which one? I would like one that has adjustment controls on the collar for the little dog or get a collar for him that I can adjust.
I need 2 collars, about 1000 feet of wire, lightening protector, and less then 100 feet of twisted wire.
What do you think the best choice for me would be?
ADMIN – Hi Mike,
With a German Shepherd, I like to use one of the stronger collars, because sometimes that breed requires a stronger correction level as you mentioned. The way many of them have been bred, they are less sensitive to the correction and so need more energy to redirect their attention.
With the Beagle / Lab mix, as per your experience I would expect that he would need a lot lower correction, and that using something super-strong would be counter-productive and overwhelm him.
I would use a PetSafe Inground system, and use the included collar with the Beagle. For the German Shepherd, add an extra PetSafe Stubborn collar. (Those collars are intercompatible)
I am moving to my retirement home in the next 60 days and need some advice on a couple of items. The home was built on a 1/2 acre lot in the East Mountains outside Albuquerque by me in 1994 and at that time I had the original Invisible Fence installed. Shortly after that I took a job away from the area and the fence was never used as I took my black lab dog with me. Now I’m moving back with a 5-month old blue tick hound mix who will be about 50-60 pounds when grown and a 9-year old 21 pound terrier mix. I plan to reactivate the fence (if possible) and use it for the pup. She is not high strung and gets along well with people, but is already protective of my rental fenced yard. The older one may or may not use it (I haven’t yet decided – a high small back yard fence may suffice as there are coyotes who roam the area).
1. Is the original wire still usable? I know of one break in it but there may be others below ground so I would have to find them. How would I find breaks? Should I relay the wire (very rocky terrain).
2. Is the original transmitter still usable? I would have to buy new collars so should I upgrade 20-year old transmitter technology?
3. Recommendations for the pup and the older dog would be appreciated.
ADMIN – Hi Dave,
(1) If the wire is 20 years old, it may fine but it could also have deteriorated in the ground and be not worth repairing. I would gently dig up a small section and see what kind of condition the wire is in. What you are looking for is to see if the wire insulation is still in good shape or if it has rotted out. If the wire looks in good condition, and we think there are only a couple of break, you can use the PetSafe Wire Break Locator to help you find the break.
(2) If it is 20 years old, I would replace the transmitter. It will give you a much better fence, and will also be significantly cheaper than getting new Invisible Fence collars.
(3) I would use a PetSafe Inground system. It has a small light collar, which is particularly useful if you decide to contain the Terrier. It also lets you have independent correction levels which will be useful having two dogs that are so different in size.
I’m buying a house soon and my girlfriend will be moving in with her 2 Australian Cattle dogs. We’d like to do an in ground fence around most of the backyard (I think around 2,000 sq ft). I don’t know much about dogs or these in ground fences but my girlfriend says the dogs have previously been trained on them. Which system would you recommend?
ADMIN – Hi Roxy,
Cattledogs are quick learner, so don’t usually need a particularly strong fence. But, being smaller dogs, having a lighter collar is useful. The PetSafe Ultrasmart would be a great choice.
Hi we have a 16 acre property with 3 large hunting dogs, recently our dogs have escaped and harassed our next door neighbors pet goat. We are after a wired system preferably with a remote trainer and long battery life on the collars. We have heard that some invisible fences are solar powered and wondered how these compare to the mains wired for reliability and durability. They also play rough together so would need a collar (preferably slimline) that can withstand this and the swims in the dam that they love. Thank you, Michael.
ADMIN – Hi Michael,
The only good system with a remote trainer built in, is the Innotek IUC-5100. It meets most of your needs. It is rechargeable, has a long life battery life (around 1 month in fence mode), is reliable & waterproof. But, the 5100 remote can only control two dogs at the same time.
I haven’t seen any dog fences that are solar. I know there are solar electric fences (for livestock), but unfortunately there aren’t any solar options for dog fences.
Hi there! My family just got a 2 month old Plott Hound mix from the SPCA. We live on 3 acres which is mostly wooded except for a medium-sized yard. We would like to fence in most of the property so the dog can run around a bit (he is an outside dog). Which system would work best for a wooded area? I know we can’t start training him for a few more months, but we could go ahead and install the wiring.
Thanks!
ADMIN – Hi Corey,
For a ale Plott Hound, I would want something a bit stronger than the standard systems, sometimes that breed needs a firm correction to gain their full attention – particularly if they are tracking something. I would use a PetSafe Stubborn.
Hi, I’m excited to have found your site. We are adopting a 9 week old black lab puppy in June. We want to be ready for her and wanted to get a in ground fence for her before she came. I’m not sure how much she will weight when we get her but was wondering when the right age to use the fence? Which fence would be appropriate for a lab? We live in a city with houses close by but we would love to get her out on her own eventually. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you
ADMIN – Hi Laura,
Congratulations, they are wonderful dogs. For pups, we usually wait until the dog is 6 months old before we start training them on a fence. At 9 weeks, you will notice that her attention wonders too much for any kind of formal training. It takes them until around 6 months for them to have the mental maturity for the training.
For a lab, the PetSafe Ultrasmart is a good choice, and has enough range that it could handle a larger property if you move out of the city.
Unless you need to install it in now, I would hold off on your purchase until just before the dog is ready for the training. At that time we will also have a better sense for her temperament.
I have a naughty dog. She’s just a year but she keeps getting out of the paddock. she is a lab/pyre mix. I also have a Sarplaninac (Serbian sheep dog) who could care less about leaving the area. I need to resolve this otherwise the lab mix will eventually get out and get injured.
I have securely fenced the paddock in twice now (with chicken wire and now metal garden fencing) and she can sometimes pull up a place and dig a little to get under it.
I’m going crazy.
There is an older petsafe RF 1010 in the cottage where I rent that needs to be activated again but am wondering if I should add another system to it? Any advice would be helpful. Thank you
ADMIN – Hi Emily,
If you already have a PetSafe RF1010 transmitter, then I would use that instead of buying a new transmitter. If you still have the included, PetSafe Stubborn collar, then we would use that, otherwise you can purchase just the collar.
You can just attach the boundary wire to the existing fencing instead of burying the wire, do a little training, and you should have her contained.
I have a 10 lb terrier mix and I live on a 1/4 acre lot. I’m looking at getting a lab within the next year and just wondering what system will be the best without replacing it for a bigger system in the future. Also we get a lot of snow and want to let them run outside in the winter. Thanks!
ADMIN – Hi Mike,
For the terrier, we want to use the small collar from the PetSafe Little Dog system. When you add your lab, we can use on of the compatible PetSafe collar, such as the PetSafe Inground, or PetSafe Stubborn.
That PetSafe Little Dog system has enough transmission power that it can gets through around 3 feet of accumulated snow.
Hi, I really love how you answer these questions and let all of us read them. We currently have 3 dogs. Shepard/Rot mix about 110lbs. Golden/hound around 65 and a bichon/maltese around 12lbs. Property is roughly 2 acres. We want to do in ground. Is it possible to do 2 systems? A tighter radius for the little dog and the whole property for the big dogs? Also once they are trained to the fence how do you address taking them off the property for a walk?
ADMIN – Hi Harold,
Yes, you can use two separate systems. For the second system, you would want to use a dual frequency system such as the Perimeter Ultra to avoid it interfering with the primary system used by the other two dogs.
Once they are trained, we teach them that they can leave when you give them permission. To do this, we create a routine (such as putting the dog on leash, removing their training collar, walking them to the same spot on the boundary, then saying OK). The first few times they will resist and you will have to confidently lead them through. After a few times, they will understand that there is now an exception to the general containment rules and will happily go out when given permission.
I have 2 dogs:
1) a 4 year old, 55 pound flat coat retriever mix who is generally good but will chase after deer, rabbits, the neighbor’s cat, etc off our wooded property and into our neighbors’ yards.
2) a 12 pound, 13 year old maltese/poodle mix who has lost a lot of his hearing. He meanders into the neighbors’ properties which is not good in our uptight community. He will also run into the street. He was attacked by a mountain lion when he was younger so his neck is a bit sensitive. Until now he has not worn a collar.
I’d like a system that both dogs can use.
Also as I mentioned above our property is narrow (only about 6-8 feet between our house and the property line) so we’d need something that can not beep or buzz until they get really close to the edge.
Your recommendation will be greatly appreciated!
ADMIN – Hi Theresa,
The PetSafe Inground plus an extra PetSafe Little Dog collar for the Maltese/Poodle mix would be a good choice.
The PetSafe Inground collar included with the system will fit well on the retriever mix and should have enough power to redirect him when he is in full chase.
The PetSafe Little Dog is more appropiately sized for the Maltese/Poodle.
Training can be harder if the dog cannot hear. Ideally we would use a vibrating collar, but those are going to be much too big and heavy for the Maltese. Check if her ears are pricking up when the boundary alert starts sounding. If they aren’t and she cannot hear the warning at all, you will want to put the collar on the lowest correction level instead during the initial part of the training, so at least she is getting some sort of sensory feedback.
On all the system you can adjust the thickness of the boundary. But, for training the dogs, you want the boundary to be at least 3 feet wide. That leaves a relatively narrow passage on the sides. I would not be surprised if the dogs don’t use the side passage, they generally like to have a buffer between them and the start of the correction. If it is important to you that they use the side passage, I would incorporate walking through the safe zone on the side passages as part of your training.
I have a lab/ beagle mix that loves to run into the road and my mom has a little dog and I need to get something that will keep them in the yard and not chained up in the yard all the time any suggestions?
My dog is about 50lbs or so and my mom has a blue chihuahua that is about 9 or 10lbs. My dog doesnt go across the street unless my moms dog does. I need something strong for my dog.
ADMIN – Hi Alicia,
I would use a PetSafe Stubborn system and use the included collar for the lab / beagle mix. For the chihuahua, add a PetSafe Little Dog Collar.
I have 2 beagles: 25 lbs and 28 lbs. We live on a corner lot and the beagle boys go nuts when families walk by and completely psycho if a dog is in near sight (barking and scratching the fence)…I swear they are good dogs other wise! The side neighbors have a German Shepard that loves to taunt the youngest beagle which in turn has my beagle digging to play with the neighbors dog.
I’m looking for an underground fence to keep them off the fences and in my yard. Also, something easy for me to install. I called a company, but simply can’t afford $1600.00. I will need 2 collars so am looking for something that is compatible with the system I purchase.
Thanks for your help!
ADMIN – Hi Cholly,
For two beagles, we would want to use a system with smaller collar, but still with a good strength correction. I would suggest a PetSafe Ultrasmart. With the extra collar that is going to end up running in the region of $400.
Hi, Is there any dog fence brand that the collar has a on/off switch on them as well as the on/off switch on the control box?
I purchased a Dogtek EF-4000 and I have three dogs to run on it, but would be easier if the switch was on the collars..They stay indoors during the day and when I let them out, it would be nice to just switch their collars on and let them go!
ADMIN – Hi John,
The PetSafe InGround, and PetSafe Little Dog both have an on/off dial on the collar that lets you switch the collar off when not in use.
Hi. I live in a community where dogs are not welcomed due to the religious beliefs of the majority of the residents. A very few of us have dogs and even though I have two acres, I must keep them contained due to the fact, they could be shot if seen running loose. One of my dogs is of medium size and likes to “run” whenever she can sneak out a door and is an artist of digging under runs. She is 10 years old and a dear old thing but….. The other two follow me around and never go anyplace. I need something for Abby so that she may enjoy being outside during the summer months with me or just outside hanging out in Alaska summers while I am working in the garden. I really do not want to place her on a run in the back of house and away from the rest of us.
I was thinking about an L shaped are that would be a bit of the side yard and some of the front yard.
ADMIN – Hi Annitta,
A L-shaped that covered the front of the house and some side-yard would work. For a medium sized dog on 2 acres, the PetSafe Ultrasmart would be a good choice.
Goliath pit bull, 7 months old and dumb as a box of rocks. Neighbors got horses and she likes to taunt them. I have 1/2 an acre. Suggestion please.
ADMIN – Hi Anthony,
Pitbulls often need a stronger correction to get their attention, particularly when they are in full chase. I would recommend one of the the stronger dog fence systems, in particular, the PetSafe Stubborn.
I have a 4 year old rescue boxer/pit mix who has quite the attitude when people/animals are by the house. I am also looking at rescuing another pit mix. Our lot is about 1 acre. Suggestions?
ADMIN – Hi Erika,
With dogs that have Pit Bull in them, we often need a collar that is stronger than usual. Do for your rescue (and for the pending rescue), the PetSafe Stubborn would be a good choice.
Hi, we have a 7 month old Great Pyrenees/Australian Shepherd mix. He has earned how to climb our chain link fence, so we need to further contain him. Is there a good model that would allow us to run the wire along the top of our existing fence, so we don’t have to bury it? Also, we have a lot of ivy, kudzu and bamboo along one stretch of the fence. If the wire touches any of this, will it interfere with the signal or cause it to ground out? We will keep it cut back as much as possible, but all of that stuff grows so fast you can almost see it growing!
ADMIN – Hi Kat,
You can run the wire for any of the inground systems along the fence. They all work equally well with mounted above ground as they do when buried below ground.
You are also fine running the wire along the fence with the vines. The wire is insulated and so it does not matter what it touches.
A good option for a dog that is part Pyrenees would be the PetSafe Stubborn. The collar has a little more oomph available in the event you need it which is useful with a dog part Pyrenees.
Hi there, I have a German Shepherd that’s about 14 months old. She weighs around 70 pounds and while she’s very smart and obedient MOST of the time, we’re finding that sometimes she gets bored with us and runs away to neighbors’ property, regardless of how much we call for her. We live in the country so once she’s gone, she knows she’s done something that’s not approved of and will run away from us when we try to catch her. We really need something that is going to keep her in our three acre plot. Please lend me a recommendation!! Thank you!
ADMIN – Hi Katie,
For a German Shepherd, we want one of the higher powered collars. GSDs often need a higher correction strength to redirect them when something outside the boundary catches their eye. A good choice on 3 acres would be the PetSafe Stubborn.
We have a 6 month old male Bernese mountain dog. He is already 80lbs and we expect he will be a healthy 110lbs-125lbs when fully grown. Up until this point he does not listen or train well. He bites and jumps and we are certain he can chew through the hardest steel known to man if left to his own devices. We feel part of his disobedience has to do with his age and short attention span. On the other hand he is over powering strong as the bread is know for. We live on 25 acres mostly wooded and would like to container 2 acres of open land with a underground fence.
I like the idea of the correction remote as an additional tool to use with conventional training. I fear he will pull my wife over and drag her down the gravel driveway the first time a squirrel runs in front of him, before we get him fully trained. Can you recommend a system that would fit our situation?
ADMIN – Hi Mark,
With a Bernese, I would want to use the highest strength training collar, because they often need a stronger correction to refocus them on the boundary and away from some temptation like a squirrel. I would suggest a PetSafe Stubborn.
There are systems that have an inbuilt remote trainer, such as the Innotek IUC-5100. But, I feat that the system will not be strong enough to get reliable results with a Bernese, particularly one that we already know is a bit rambunctious, and you will neither have an effective fence nor an effective remote trainer.
You dog would be a great candidate for use a remote trainer to help with obedience training, but I think you would be better served with a dedicated high strength training collar.
You might consider getting a professional trainer to get you started. Particularly with a powerful breed like a Bernese, you want to get them trained young, and just a few sessions with a trainer will make a huge difference in getting you on the right path. Some basic obedience training so he can walk on leash, and confidently do a sit/stay/come will make a huge difference to everyone’s quality of life. The longer we let him be disobedient, the more that pattern of behavior will get ingrained and the harder it will be to change that behavior.
I bought a new 2 year old cockapoo 4 weeks ago….for the past week she has become an escape artist. climbing our deck enclosed fence. She is about 14 pounds and will get her mom in 6 weeks. I can’t afford to have them out running our acre lot. I only want to enclose a small area in the back yard. What’s the best choice.
ADMIN – Hi Fran,
For two Cockapoos, we would want something with a small collar. The PetSafe Ultrasmart would be my top choice.
Hi, I’m about to purchase an in ground fence for our 3 1/2 month old Cavalier King Charles puppy. I’m thinking of going with the PetSafe UltraSmart system instead of the Little Dog because the Little Dog batteries are proprietary and it does not come with battery backup. I have a question on the wire… the system comes with 22 gauge wire, but I’ve read thicker wire (ie. 14 gauge) is better. I’m wondering why? Does thicker wire break/corrode less often and/or is there any benefit to the signal with the larger wire? Pete Derkowski
ADMIN – Hi Pete,
Most systems (including the two you mention) include 20 gauge wire. The main benefit of upgrading to the thicker gauges of wire is that it is more resilient to damage. There is a small signal transmission benefit, but you are unlikely to notice any difference on a typical suburban lot (you would notice a small difference if you were operating near the system capacity of 25 acres.
I agree, the Ultrasmart would be the better choice for a Cavalier King Charles.
FYI – I would wait until 6 months before training your puppy unless he is exceptionally advanced. Until 6 months, they usually don’t have enough of an attention span to learn the containment rules effectively. (A good test is if they can confidently execute a sit, stay, and come)
Hi, I was looking into an invisible fence for my dog. I have a 5 month old purebred Siberian Husky. He is about 26 lbs. and CRAZY! I have 1.7 acres (perfect rectangle) and want to run the underground wiring around the perimeter so he has some room to run and play. What would be the suggested package for him? What do you have to offer over Invisible Fence company or any of the other companies. I do like the fact of the training collar with remote because he is still in training and is a major biter so having that would be cool to correct him when he gets in his moods of biting and gnawing on flesh lol (ie. my arm!). Thank you
ADMIN – Hi Jared,
If you want a combination training collar, with a Husky, the Innotek IUC-5100 would be a good choice. The system includes a training remote as well as the dog fence functionality. The collar on the IUC-5100 is particularly good for Huskies because it helps you check that the collar is properly fitted – something that can be a challenge with the thick undercoat on a husky
Hi, We have 3 dogs, 2 English setters that are around 50 pounds and a 19 pound Pomeranian mix. We live in a wooded area and want to enclose about 2-3 acres for them to run in, instead of them running all over our 27 acres and chasing the all the wildlife. What system would you recommend, and should we run the wire in conduit or tubing to help prevent breaks? Thanks!
ADMIN – I would do the SportDog SDF-100A and use the SportDog collar for the two English Settlers. For the smaller Pomeranian, I would use the compatible PetSafe Deluxe collar which is going to be much lighter.
Running wire in conduit will make for a more durable setup – but it is also incredible tedious if you are doing a large area. My first intuition would be just to staple the thicker gauge wire to the ground in the wooded area, and see how it goes. Hopefully, the wire will be fine and over the years will just bury itself as the seasons pass. If you do start getting breaks, you will know early on, and can always go back and put it in conduit later.
Hello, I have a 1 year old Cockapoo (30 lb) and our yard is only .25 of an acre. Do you have a recommendation for a yard this small?
ADMIN – Hi Andrew,
For a cockapoo on one-quarter acre, either the PetSafe Ultrasmart, or the PetSafe InGround would be good choices. Both are excellent, and will do the job. The Ultrasmart is more expensive and has extra features such as a rechargeable collar. The InGround is cheaper, but is tethered to a disposable proprietary battery that you need to keep on buying.
We have 2 rescue dogs. One is a min-pin/chihuahua mix whose age we are unsure of we know he’s over 5 years old (we’ve had him that long) and a 1 1/2 yr old Labradoodle. We were looking at getting a wired underground fence to contain our two wanderers. What would you suggest?
ADMIN – Hi Deirde,
With those two wandering hounds, because they are so different in size, the PetSafe Systems with intercompatible collars are going to be a good fit. I would use a PetSafe InGround and use the included collar with the Labradoodle. With the Chihuahua cross, I would use the compatible PetSafe Little Dog collar.
Really interested in purchasing one of your units so need some advice on the best option for us. We have a one year old Bassett Hound and a one year old mini Eskimo that we need to keep on out 3 acre lot and off the road or neighboring field. Given the differences in both breeds temperaments what would you suggest as our best option?
Appreciate any advise!
ADMIN – Hi Lisa,
Since those two dogs are so different in size and temperament and given you are doing a larger area, the SportDog would be a good choice. The SportDog has a lot of versatility, and will let you use collar from the PetSafe Little Dog, Stubborn, and InGround systems. I would use the SportDog and use the included collar for the Basset Hound.
For the Miniature Eskimo we would want a smaller, less strong collar. If they are under 12lbs, use the PetSafe Little Dog Collar, and over 12lbs use the PetSafe Inground Collar.
I have 3 year old lab mix that jumps the 4 ft chain link fence. She will also take off whenever the opportunity arises. What is the best type of electric fence to keep her from jumping? A higher fence is not an option right now.
ADMIN – Hi Lisa,
For a lab, the PetSafe Ultrasmart would work well, as would the PetSafe Inground.
If you already have a chain link fence in place, that will make installation extra easy. You can just weave the wire through the chain link, or zip-tie it to the chain link instead of burying it.
Hi, we will be adding a male GSP to our family in the coming weeks. I don’t see Humane Contain on here and was wondering how their systems compare. Also, our house is on about an acre rectangle lot so i have been thinking wired would be better for our situation? Any other tidbits that you think are important to consider? Both Bitch and Sire are good size so i expect our boy to be 65-70 lbs.
ADMIN – Hi Paul,
We reviewed the Humane Contain reviewed in the table above and were very unimpressed. We also get a lot of complaints about build quality on those units.
With a German Shepherd, two important considerations are to get a system that has a long-prong option, and a system that has a strong correction.
Because of their thick coat, you need a system that has a long-prong option, so you can get good contact between the dog’s skin and the collar prongs. Many German Shepherds also have a very high pain tolerance, so it is useful to have a system that is capable of a strong correction.
The PetSafe Stubborn is usually my go to fence for GSPs.
Great site. We have a 70# 2 year old golden retriever on a third to half an acre. Sounds like Goldens are receptive to most systems and training but is one better than the other. I also would like to lay the wire across the driveway and cover it (obviously). Any recommendations or considerations with this method to box in the yard? Thanks.
ADMIN – Hi Kyle,
Like you said, golden retrievers are generally easy to train on a containment system and you have a lot of options. My go-to fence for a Golden is the PetSafe Ultrasmart. As well as being a well-made system, what I really like on the system is the collar-check feature which lets you make sure the collar is properly fit with the prongs contacting the dog’s skin. This is particularly useful on long-hair dogs where getting good contact can be tricky.
Benji is a 23 pound terrier mix who has become an escape artist. He bolts out the door when opened and keeps breaking his long tie out cables. We’ve considered the underground systems but wondered about the weight of the collar and the stability in our occasional deep snow. What system do you suggest?
ADMIN – Hi Sandy,
With Benji, one of the systems with a lighter collars would be a good choice. And because you have accumulating snow one of the more powerful transmitters would also be useful. I would suggest the PetSafe Ultrasmart, the collar is light and it can deal with accumulated snow (up to about 3 feet).
We have a 5 month old puggle who currently weighs about 11 pounds (maxing out at about 25 pounds). We have a 1/3 acre lot in a neighborhood. What system do you recommend? She can be pretty determined when she sets her mind to something. What happens if she runs through the wire boundary? We live in Iowa with possible extreme winter conditions, would you recommend upgrading to 14 gauge wire?
ADMIN – Hi Denise,
For a puggle, the PetSfae Ultrasmart would be a good choice. It has a small collar, but is still rechargeable, and is one of our most reliable systems.
The system will work in winter, but once you get snow accumulation more than 1-2 feet, the signal will have difficulty penetrating all that snow cover.
The 14 gauge wire is a good upgrade. It is a lot stronger and is much less likely to develop a wire break.
I have two male mixed Labrador and Pitbull dogs. One weights 30 lbs and the second around 55 lbs. They are used to the indoors since we lived in an apartment and know but they are recently moved to a house. Usually they are inside the house but I wanna start training them to stay outside and enjoyed the garden. I tried to leave them outside but they were digging holes and tried to escape through the fence several times until they finally got it. I don´t like the idea of getting a metal fence, We have one and they get noisy and anxious as soon as they are contained . What product do you recommend? The garden is not big (about the size of a double car garage). Thank you for your help!
ADMIN – Hi Marisol,
Dog fences don’t work very well with small areas, because the correction zone ends up taking up a lot of the dog’s space. If the garden is a small as the double car garage, the dog’s won’t be able to use about half of that area.
You can solve this problem if you can bury the boundary wire outside the garden area, but I know most of the time this means you have to be on a neighbors property of the road which is not feasible.
A good system for those two dogs would be something stronger like the PetSafe Stubborn.
I have 2 dogs, one 5 to 10 Lbs., one 10 to 15 Lbs. We want to install fencing around our field, which is roughly 5 acres. Which system would I need for these dogs? We do get thunderstorms in the summer. I would like to get as many options like battery back-up, independent collar correction, not to keen on having to buy the makers battery either. Thanks.
ADMIN – Hi Bob,
With the smallest dog being under 12 lbs, the only good option is the PetSafe Little Dog which has a proprietary battery. I don’t like proprietary batteries either, but with a dog that size using a regular size collar will be to heavy and too strong.
The system does include the lightning protection module and allows independent correction levels to be set on the collars. It does not have battery backup.
Hi, I’m in the market for an in ground fence system . I really liked the Dog tek EF-6000 . I understand there were some issues and it should be back soon . I like the option of using my own fabric collar and the on/off key chain fob . The dog comes to work with me every day, I’d rather not have to remove his collar each time we pull out of the driveway . By the way, he’s a 14 month old Lab.
I’d consider the Petsafe Ultra smart , I do like the form fitting rechargeable collar.
Here’s my big question . My property is a long rectangle with the house in the center . One end is the driveway , front of the house etc…. But, the back is a long lawn that ends at a lake. Is there any way to not have to double back my wire in order to create an opening for the dog to be able to walk on the dock ? Can I bury the wire extra deep , cover it with a piece of steel? Anything to not have to double up the wire run back to the control box?
ADMIN – Hi Mike,
For a lakefront, the alternatives to doubling back on yourself would be to run the wire up high, or down low, so that the wire is either much higher or lower than the dog. If there are trees nearby, elevating the wire is an option. I the water is deep enough, running the wire into the lake is an option.
Burying the wire deep underground is rarely practical (because you need to go 3+ feet down). There is unfortunately no way to shield the wire.
I am so happy that I found your site. What awesome information! We just got a Yorkshire Terrier/Maltese rescue dog who weighs about 10 lbs. He loves to chase the squirrels wherever they run and unfortunately living on a corner lot, this is quite dangerous. Our neighborhood covenants will not allow a traditional fence so this is our best option. I am debating between the wireless system and the PetSafe little dog because he’s pretty small and I don’t want to have too much of a shock for his size. Any other ideas? Unfortunately we are in MN and buried under 10 inches of snow, so I don’t know when we will be able to bury the wires!
ADMIN – Hi Michelle,
Snow covered ground in mid-April!
With a dog around 10 lbs, the PetSafe Little Dog will be your better option. The collar is much smaller (the wireless collars are all too heavy for dogs under 15lbs) and lighter. Using a wired system like the PetSafe Little Dog you will also get a much tighter boundary.
If you need coverage now, I would just run the fence along the snow, weighing it down with a rock in a few spots to stop it moving. Then when the snow finally melts, you can do the permanent installation.
I have tinnitus and high frequency hearing loss. Testing the Dogtek EF 6000 requires you to hear the high pitch beeping sounds, which I cannot hear. Is there an alternate way to test the system?
ADMIN – Hi Darrell,
You can also look at the status light on the collar, or look at the dog’s ears and see when they prick up.
I recently purchased a Dogtek 4000 system and it seems not to be performing as advertised. I want to return the Dogtek 4000 and exchange it for the Petsafe Ultra. How can I accomplish this?
ADMIN – Hi Russell,
We would be happy to switch it out for you. Just give us a call on (888) 936 4349.
We have the Pet Safe wireless system and have had trouble with it. While our dog is in the perimeter the collar will beep randomly. Because it beeps she will not move around any because she fears she will get shocked. We have returned it for a new system but the collar still doesn’t work correctly. We have tried new batteries, resetting the system…pretty much everything we could figure out to do. Any ideas?
ADMIN – Hi Tracy,
When you say the collar beeps randomly when the dog is on the perimeter, do you mean that when the dog gets close to the boundary line, the collar is not consistent on where it triggers. (i.e. sometimes it will trigger a few feet early, and other times it will trigger a few feet late).
The boundary moving around is characteristic on wireless system, and is one of the drawbacks associated with them. If the boundary line is moving +/- 5 feet, that would not be abnormal, and the dog just needs to be taught to leave a buffer between them and the boundary line. If the fence is moving more than +/ – 5 feet, it may having be trouble getting a good signal in your location, and you can try moving the transmitter location to get a better signal or using the more accurate wired systems.
I have a 7 month Rottweiler. I have a unique yard (1/4 acre). My lot is narrow, but long (I have approx. 4-6 feet along each side of my house.) I might be able to ask my neighbor if I can bury the wire farther on their lot…. Which system will give me the smallest boundary zone (adjustable?) so my dog can walk on the side of the house.? Your thoughts? Thanks,
ADMIN – Hi Devin,
All of the wired systems will let you adjust the boundary as small as you want (down to just a few inches). But, if you make the boundary too narrow, it is too easy for the dog to run through and it makes training hard. For a big dog like a Rottweiler, I would want the boundary set to be at least 4 feet wide on either side of the wire. You may be able to reduce it a little after the training phase, but to start that would to be at least 4 feet wide.
For the dog to be able to walk through the passage, they need at least 3 feet buffer to feel confident. This means you need the boundary wire to run at least 7 feet away from the side of the house if the dog is going to be trained to use that side passage. Sounds like you need to take a casserole or a 6-pack over to the neighbor’s house!
Hi Devin,
All of the wired systems will let you adjust the boundary as small as you want (down to just a few inches). But, if you make the boundary too narrow, it is too easy for the dog to run through and it makes training hard. For a big dog like a Rottweiler, I would want the boundary set to be at least 4 feet wide on either side of the wire. You may be able to reduce it a little after the training phase, but to start that would to be at least 4 feet wide.
For the dog to be able to walk through the passage, they need at least 3 feet buffer to feel confident. This means you need the boundary wire to run at least 7 feet away from the side of the house if the dog is going to be trained to use that side passage. Sounds like you need to take a casserole or a 6-pack over to the neighbor’s house!
For a big, tough dog like a Rottweiler, the PetSafe Stubborn would be a good choice.
I have 2 questions since One of the borders in my loop ( one side of the square if you will) is a large body of water, so:
1. How far from waters edge does the wire have to be or can it be submerged at waters edge and transmit thru a few inches of water.
2. The dog is not a huge swimmer but likes to wade, so I am open to providing access to the water and marking with flags the path or access path and using the cross wire technique for that access spot. Do u have any suggestion or experience with that type of arrangement?
ADMIN – Hi Kirk,
1. You can submerge the wire in water. You do however want to avoid placing the splices in the underwater sections.
2. I am not a fan giving water access. My experience is that there are two problems. First, the dog will constantly be wet and tracking water into the house. The second is that when the dog gets wet, the dog doesn’t feel the correction, because the wet hair conducts the current without it passing through the dog’s skin. Most of the time the dog never figures out they can swim out, and many people happily live with water access, but I am not a fan. Most customers that provide water access end up cutting it off because of the mud issue.
Hi, need help. Have two Australian Retriever puppies, Mom Australian Shepherd, Dad Golden Retriever. They are both 10 weeks and are supposed to get around 40-50 lbs. Next door neighbor has two blood hounds that do attack dogs if they get loose or go into their yard…they have a wireless system, and one collar that they share! Scary! What do you suggest for my pups that will not interfere with their system? I am actually scared to anything but cannot afford a regular fence. Please help! Thanks!
ADMIN – Hi Stacy,
Unfortunately while an electronic dog fence can contain your dogs, it won’t stop other dogs coming into your yard. Your best solution might be to get your neighbor’s dogs a second collar if they are the biggest issue.
None of the inground systems will interfere with the neighbor’s wired system. With those two dogs the PetSafe Ultrasmart would be a good choice as it is a good system with smaller collars and is rechargeable. If you wanted a wireless, system, anything except the PetSafe systems would work. With those two dogs, the Havahart Radial would be my top choice.
You will want to wait till those pups are around 6 months before you start them on the system. As smart as those dogs are going to be, as pups they won’t have the attention span to absorb the training.
I have 2 dogs, one being a stubborn Border Collie/Jack Russell mix and the other a mellow Rat Terrier/Fox Terrier mix. I have 2 1/2 acres to cover and have several requirements. 1. Different control levels for the different personalities 2. battery back-up 3. lightning protection Please help my dogs.
ADMIN – Hi Robin,
The PetSafe Ultrasmart will fit the bill for #2 (battery back-up) and #3 (lightning protection). But, it doesn’t allow for different correction levels. We have a work-around, using a resistor we can supply you (at no charge) for adjusting down the correction level on one of the collars separately.
There is unfortunately nothing else that will fit your bill. There are a lot more options if you relax requirement #2 (the battery backup)
I’ve got (2) Siberian Huskies that are rescue dogs. They’re total escape artists who bolt at any given moment. I’d like to be able to train them inside the house as well seeing they like to jump on visitors. Suggestions?
ADMIN – Hi Trent,
We know the Husky Houdinis well, they are our best customers! The nice thing about Huskies is that while they are stubborn and escape artists, they are usually very sensitive and become very compliant after the first correction.
The PetSafe Ultrasmart would be a good choice. It is a reliable system. The collars are small and rechargeable. And particularly useful for Huskies, they have a collar-fitting mode that tells you if the collar is properly fitted with the probes contacting the dog (something that can be tricky with their thick undercoat).
We just adopted a Plott Hound mix, 10 Months, about 30 lbs…soon to be about 55-60 lbs. , and a Lab Mix, 3 months, about 15 lbs….probably maxing at 40 lbs. We have 2 properties, one less than 1/2 acre and another over 2 acres (mainly wooded). Our smaller property has Chemlawn treatments, where they aerate and have cut our leads with previous dogs. Do the hidden fences get affected by that? How difficult is it to install? Do we dig a trench to lay it or lay it on top?
ADMIN – Hi Kim,
If you aerate an area that has a dog fence wire buried, the aerator can often tear up the dog fence wire. To avoid that, you either need to be careful not to aerate in the area of the wire, or bury the wire extra deep and place it in a protective conduit.
The system is not difficult to install, but it is time consuming. If you are running the fence in a grassed area, the easiest way to get it installed is to rent a trencher with a wire-laying attachment which will cut a slot, bury the wire, and backfill in one pass (2 hours to do 2 acres). Otherwise, you can cut a trench with a shovel, or an electric edger, place the wire in manually, then backfill (10 hours to do 2 acres).
You will want to wait until the Lab is around 6 months before you start his training. His is not mature enough to get it at three months.
With those two Dogs, the PetSafe Ultrasmart or the PetSafe Inground would be good choices.
I have two dogs: a Pomeranian that weighs 5 1/2 pounds who likes to chase after people, and an active Rat Terrier that weighs almost 30 pounds. I have a normal-size yard. What do you recommend?
ADMIN – Hi David,
With the Pomeranian, we will want one of the PetSafe Little Dog collars, and with the Rat Terrier, the compatible bigger PetSafe Deluxe collar. The cheapest way to get that would be to get a PetSafe InGround system (which includes the collar for the Rat Terrier) and to add an extra PetSafe Little Dog collar.
I have two dogs. A Pomeranian weighing 5 1/2 pounds and a Rat Terrier weighing about 30 pounds. What do you recommend?
ADMIN – Hi David,
With the Pomeranian, we will want one of the extra-small PetSafe Little Dog collars. For the Rat Terrier we want something a little larger and stronger such as the PetSafe Deluxe collar. The cheapest way to get that would be to get a PetSafe InGround system (which includes the collar for the Rat Terrier) and to add an extra PetSafe Little Dog collar. Those two collars are intercompatible.
What happened to the DogTek 6000? It was your top choice and now I don’t even see it listed. I just received my kit and now I’m worried I made a mistake. I have 4 dogs: Australian Shepherd mix, 2 Chesapeake bay retrievers, and a Rhodesian Ridgeback. Will be enclosing 1 1/2 acres. Should I return this system? I just read some new reviews that were not available when I purchased that said the system had a lot of problems.
ADMIN – Hi Tracy,
There was a glitch in the last production run, and some people got bum collars (so we stopped selling it until the factory gets the problem solved). If you have any problems, we will be happy to switch out the system at no charge.
Wow – so glad I found your website! So much info on electric fences! Have you heard much feedback regarding electric fences for the shiba inu dog breed? They are willful with a cat-like personality, with a very strong prey drive to chase other animals and anything moving. Our situation won’t allow us to get a regular fence, so we are considering an electric fence so our 1+ yr old shiba can be out without being on a line or leash. But I’m worried that she will run right through it if a rabbit runs by. We have a typical suburban subdivision lot, maybe a 1/3 acre, but back to an open park district field with a playground and woods with lots of deer, rabbits, squirrels and other critters. We would want to keep her in the backyard to minimize the temptation of running after the light street traffic. But we would still probably circle the entire house, somewhat tightly, so that she cannot go up the sides of the house, but could be out on the front porch only when we are out there and still stop her from darting out the front door when kids come and go. She’s large for a shiba inu, but still only about 30 pounds, and has a somewhat thick mane, almost looks like a miniature version Siberian husky. With your experience, I’m curious if you would recommend an electric fence for a strong-prey-drive dog, and if so, what kind? Thanks so much!
ADMIN – Hi Terry,
Shiba Inu’s aren’t a problem. While they can be very willful, they are receptive to the correction, a regular strength collar will do the trick. As long as you do the training, you will get her contained.
The only thing to be especially careful of is to make sure the prongs are getting good contact with the dog’s skin. If they aren’t, then the dog doesn’t get the correction. To help, you want to use a system with long prongs, and you may need to thin the hair out a little along the neck with some scissors.
The PetSafe Ultrasmart is a good choice, because it has a built in fit-detector that lets you know if the collar is properly fitted with the prongs contacting the skin.
Have 7-yr old female lab that still thinks she is a puppy. Fairly docile inside with just us but not at all when outside or with strangers. Currently has bark collar in fenced yard – would bark frequently without collar. We are “retirement age” so moving to villa with small sloped yard that would be hard to fence; so won’t have our fenced yard anymore. Our dog thinks everybody loves her – humans and other dogs; always ready to run to them. Anytime she gets free she runs and runs. So we’ll need wired fence that can contain the alpha urge. And one that can co-exist with bark collar unless any of them have a bark control capability in addition to containment. Look forward to your feedback. Your site is an excellent resource; thank in advance for any ideas.
ADMIN – Hi Jim,
Labs tend to be among the easiest dogs to contain which opens up a lot of options. A PetSafe Ultrasmart would be a good choice (rechargeable, small collar), as would the PetSafe Inground (small collar, cheaper, but disposable battery).
Unfortunately, there aren’t any dual bark/containment collars, but the two collars will happily coexist.
I have a 9 month old terrier who is about 65lbs. I have a yard that goes to the street where other people walk their dogs. I am worried that if something catches his attention his momentum could carry him across the electric fence line. Any thoughts/experiences? Thanks.
ADMIN – Hi Tony,
A dog that has been properly trained will not go through no matter what the temptation. Terrier tend to have higher prey drives which makes containment a bit harder, particularly when they are excited, but if you do the training it should not be an issue.
We address temptations in the last couple of days of the training, thinking up the most exciting temptations we can muster (like having a neighbor work their dog into your dog, play with your dogs until they are in a high energy state, then leave the yard) to make sure the dogs will be completely contained no matter what.
Hi, I have an almost 12 year old Weimaraner who is very attached so doesn’t go far, but does wander about our small cul-de-sac neighborhood that we recently moved into (our previous house had a wooden fenced in back yard so that contained him). With the summer months coming and him wanting to go out more often and for longer periods of time, I am considering getting a pet containment system so that I can let him out and not have to watch him or go collect him from the neighbor’s yard. His weight varies between 85-95 pounds. Our property is about an acre and there are not any areas I would consider off limits to him within that. With him being used to having the run of the outside, I’m not sure how hard it will be to break him of this bad habit I’ve created, plus his age (can you teach an old dog new tricks). Also, we have kids and when we are all outside, he stays right with us, so I can see us taking the collar off frequently to let him roam in the cul-de-sac while the kids ride their bikes, or to play with other neighbor dogs who may also be outside. I recognize I’ll have to be diligent about training him and going through an invisible gate to avoid confusing him. I hope I’ve given you enough information to recommend a system for me. Thank you for your help! Mel
ADMIN – Hi Mel,
You can still teach a old dog new tricks, particularly when they are motivated to avoid a correction. It is also fine if he is used to roaming, this is unfortunately the case with most dogs that get put on an electric fence.
One thing to check is to make sure his hearing is still good, if it isn’t we will want to use a vibrating collar (rather than a beeping collar). You can test his hearing by clapping when his back is to you and seeing if he turns his head. We find many older dogs are hard of hearing, but have adapted so clearly that the owners have no idea!
For a weimaraner you have a lot of good choices. The PetSafe Ultrasmart is excellent. If he is hard of hearing and you need something with a vibrating collar, the PetSafe Stubborn would also be a good choice.
What would you recommend for : 1 acre lot in town with a yellow lab with an attitude? We would like to bury the wire 4-6 inches down so we can aerate our lawn. Thanks
ADMIN – Hi Michelle,
Since you are burying the wire so deep, a system with a more powerful transmitter would be useful. The PetSafe Ultrasmart and SportDog SDF-100A would both be good choices for a lab with an attitude. Both are good systems with powerful transmitters. The PetSafe is a little more expensive, but has a smaller and rechargeable collar. The SportDog is a little cheaper but has a bulkier collar and a relies on a disposable collar.
Hi. I have two dogs. A 2 year old male English Bulldog and a 3 year old male American Bulldog. We recently moved to the country and have 10 acres, mostly wooded, with horses and cows next door. We are interested in getting a pet fence, but not sure which to buy. We have looked into the Pet Safe Stubborn and the Dogtek EF-6000. The English Bulldog is fairly calm and doesn’t need much training, but the American Bulldog as soon as he gets out the door or off his chain he runs and doesn’t come back. We would like to give them 2-5 acres to play and not have to worry. What do you suggest as far as which system to buy and also what size wire gauge do you think is best?
ADMIN – Hi Elyssa,
For bulldogs, I like to have one of the stronger correction systems just in case the dog needs a stronger buzz to get their attention. I would opt for the PetSafe Stubborn.
The thicker wire is much better from a durability perspective and is less likely to develop wire breaks. It is a good upgrade if it fits you budget.
Are there any in ground systems that have control units that can be placed outdoors? So far everything i have found require that the unit be placed in doors. Thanks Dwight
ADMIN – Hi Dwight,
The only transmitter than can be mounted outdoors and exposed to rain and snow is the Humane Contain (but it is awful).
If you need to put the transmitter outdoors, you can use any model and place it in a waterproof box (available in the electrical section of hardware stores).
We have just moved to on 7 acres and are looking for the best underground fence for our weimaraner. We will be fencing the entire property to allow out pet to have as much free space as possible. Do you have any suggestions of a good system to use for our dog? She is expected to get to about 90-100lbs. Thanks
ADMIN – Hi JJ,
For a weimaraner on 7 acres, a good choice would be a PetSafe Ultrasmart or the SportDog SDF-100A. The former has a smaller rechargeable collar, the later has a bulkier non-rechargeable collar but is also a little cheaper. Both do a great job.
Hello, First of all great website. Which system and/or collar would you suggest for a 14 lb. tenacious Jack Russel Terrier. The property size is about a 1/4 + acre. Are the collar batteries rechargeable or readily available and affordable? Also, we have a decorative pond that we would like to keep him away from that’s contained within the yard, other than running the wire around the pond would you suggest the PAWZ away system. Are these and the remote controls compatible with Pet Safe and other systems?
Thanks.
Ivan
ADMIN – Hi Ivan,
For a tenacious Jack Russel, it will be important to use one of the smaller collars. Two systems I would recommend and that fit the bill are the PetSafe Ultrasmart and the PetSafe Inground. The Ultrasmart is rechargeable and the more expensive of the two. The Inground is cheaper, but uses a disposable proprietary battery.
The PAWZ away rock does a good job or blocking off small areas, and is much easier than running wire. The PAWZ away outdoor pods (the rock), is compatible only with the PetSafe Ultrasmart and the Innotek IUC-5100.
I have a border collie mix that is believed to be around 9 months old. She was a rescue dog and I need some way to contain her in our yard. I am at a loss at what to do. The perfect thing would be to install a fence but we just do not have the money to do that. Our home sets on almost a full acre lot and even though there are 40 mph signs on our road, the traffic is usually going somewhere around 50 to 60. A few years ago someone lost control and slid clear across my front yard “sideways” and just missed my well access, a telephone pole and my mail box and took out a 22 ft blue spruce on the far side of my property. I don’t want my sweet girl to even go in the front yard. Could you please guide me in the right direction?
ADMIN – Hi Brenda,
Border collies are among the easier dogs to train because they are smart and will quickly understand ‘the game’. This gives you a lot of good choices. My top two options would be a PetSafe Ultrasmart and the SportDog SDF-100A. Botth are good system that will get the job done. The PetSafe is rechargeable and has a smaller collar. The SportDog uses a disposable battery and has a bigger collar, but is also cheaper.
You will find some good options for doing a backyard only layout in our Installation –> Layouts page.
Love the website. But I still have no idea which system would be most beneficial for my dogs.
I have a 2 year old boxer mix and a 6 month old boxer/american bulldog mix. My two year old is rather subdued by my puppy is wild! I’m looking for an underground fence that keeps both dogs with different personalities contained. We have a rather small lot so putting up a privacy fence would be awkward looking. I’ve also been quoted a huge sum of money for someone to professionally install an invisible fence so I think DIY is definitely the way to go. Also something to think about is my neighbors also have an underground fence. Will this cause interference? What is the best system for multiple dogs? Any advice you can offer would be appreciated!
ADMIN – Hi Ryan,
With two dogs with such different personalities, a system which lets you have different correction levels for each dog is a must. Also with a neighbor having an underground fence, a dual frequency system that can avoid clashing with the neighbors fences is also on my must have list.
I would suggest the Perimeter Ultra, it is the only system that is going to address both those needs. http://www.dogfencediy.com/reviews/perimeter-technologies/
I have a 7week old female mastiff, now 16 pounds, has already surpassed the size of our older Bichon. (The Bichon stays close to the house and is mostly an inside dog, so I’m not concerned with keeping him confined.)
We are wanting something that will accommodate our mastiff puppy through her full size of approximately 150 pounds. I would like a rechargeable wireless system and am considering the PetSmart Stay + Play, PIF00-12917, but I do not see that system recommended on your most helpful site.
We have two wooded acres, but intend to fence only about 1/4 to 1/2 acre since the house is located fairly close to the lot line on one side. What system would you suggest?
I am grateful for your expertise.
ADMIN – Hi Patty,
I like the PetSafe Stay + Play, I think it is among the better wireless systems. But, I think the Havahart Wireless is a little better in terms of having a more accurate and boundary. The Havahart is also rechargeable, and at the same price, I think it is a slightly better choice. The Havahart has some drawbacks, such as having a maximum of two dogs, but none of those apply to you
If you can wait until the Mastiff is six months old, you will find training is a lot easier. At 7 weeks, she won’t have much of an attention span, I would wait until she is older before introducing the fence.
Note also that the wireless fences will not work if the containment area is wooded. I wasn’t sure from your description if the smaller area you were containing is cleared or wooded, but if it is wooded you would be better off with a wired system.
Which ones also have a doggie door component? I’d like our min pins to be able to go out when we’re at work. Invisible fence quoted us at $3100.
ADMIN – Hi Lori,
The DIY electronic doggie doors, such as the PetSafe Dog Door, usually have a special tag that you attach to your dog’s collar that makes the door open when the dog gets near. You can attach this tag to any of the brands of dog fence collars.
The only company that makes an integrated system (where you don’t need the tag and it is integrated into the basic dog fence collar) is the Humane Contain system. But, we would avoid using this system – it is notoriously buggy.
Hi, we have a Newfie/St Bernard, she is about 100lbs. We want to put in an underground system roughly enclosing 10 acres. The property has hilly terrain and a ravine with a creek. I would like her to have access to the creek if it can be done without having constant issues with the system. We also are taking care of a 4 lb Pom for the foreseeable future. What would you recommend?
ADMIN –
A good choice for the Newfie / St Bernard would be the PetSafe Stubborn system, given her size it is possible she will need a stronger correction so it will be useful to have that stronger correction in reserve. The Pomeranian will need a much smaller and milder collar, so I would use the compatible PetSafe Little Dog collar.
Getting the wire across the creek can be tricky if there is frequent storm surge. Using a fallen tree to get across can help this problem. You can also place the wire in a protective conduit and staple it to the creek bed.
Hello, thanks for all the help you’ve provided to the many loving dog owners out there! My situation is we just got a 10 month old lab/healer mix (will probably be 70-75 lbs.) from the humane society who had unabated roaming allowance with previous owner. My lot is small (less than 1/4 acre) so we’d want a system that didn’t have wide back-off from the location of the wire. In other words, we’d want the dog to be able to get as close to the fence-line as possible without a correction so we could maximize our space. Then, at the same time, we plan to move to a 3 – 5 acre lot so we’d want to be able to upgrade by adding more wire to the system to cover the larger lot. Which would be the best system for us?
Thanks!!
Scott
ADMIN – Hi Scott,
All the systems will let you vary the boundary width from a minimum of a few inches up to a maximum of 10+ feet. With a small lot like that and a lab/healer you will probably want to set the boundary to be about 3 feet on either side of the wire. All the systems will also be able to work up to 5 acres.
A couple of good options would be the PetSafe Ultrasmart and the SportDog SDF-100A. The PetSafe has a smaller caller and a rechargeable collar. The SportDog has a larger collar and uses a disposable 9 volt battery, but is also a little cheaper. Both will do an excellent job.
We have two wire haired pointers that love to wander. Our property is rural, 6 acres, fenced and cattle guards. There is a seasonal irrigation ditch that the dogs enjoy if they have access, that runs across the upper 300 feet. We have used a Petsafe wired electric fence with deluxe collars for years with mixed results. Lots of dead batteries that appears to be due to the collars getting wet in the ditch. We’ve quit using the system due to it being inconsistent with the correction and shocking the dogs at random places within the boundaries. We’ve only been enclosing about 1/2 acre with the system. I would like to consider enclosing the entire 6 acres with a system and am looking at the Sportdog SDF-100A. Is it a reasonable choice? Thanks for the input.
ADMIN – Hi Michael,
The SportDog would work well with a pair of German Wirehaired Pointers. The SportDog collars has the best waterproofing, which would come in useful for you.
Hello, my husband and I have a Great Pyrenees, he is 9 months old and a great dog, just like to roam a little. We live on a 2 acre lot, but next to a busy road. We have aluminum siding on our house. I like the idea of the wireless systems as they can easily be moved and can be used immediately as their is still snow on the ground. But I am wondering if this would not work with this siding at all? i don’t think anything eles on our lot would interfere with the system. Would this be an effective system or should we just wait and do the underground system. Also wondering on both types of systems, what would be the best to use with this breed? Thank you
ADMIN – Hi Julie,
The Havahart (and all the other wireless systems) do not work well on homes that have aluminum siding. You would have much better results with a wired system. With a large dog like a great Pyrenees, one of the stronger collars such as PetSafe Stubborn would be a good option.
We are getting a Cheasapeak Bay Retriever who’s biggest parent is 75 #’s it is a pup. We live on a little over 2 acres, neighbor to one side has a underground fence and 3 neighbors across the street (saw in previous post that the across street fences are not an issue) but our biggest concern is GOPHERS- who eat through everything and keep coming back no matter how many we trap. Any suggestions on preventing that? We live in Mn- snow and cold!
Thanks for your time!
Beth
ADMIN – Hi Beth,
Having neighbors on one side that have a dog fence is going to cause interference along the common boundary (unless the boundary wires are separated by around 12 feet), the neighbor across the street will be a non-issue. To avoid interference a dual frequency system like the Perimeter Ultra would be a good option and would work well for a Chesapeake.
There isn’t a lot you can do to stop Gophers eating the wire (as I am sure you know). The best defense is to use the thicker 14 gauge wire. You can also place the wire in a conduit (PVC, old hose pipe) if you know there are sections that are particularly vulnerable – but that will be very time consuming to do for the whole 2 acres. If the land is relatively flat and doesn’t have a lot of tree cover, we could also look at some wireless options.
You mentioned he was a pup, if he isn’t already six months old, I would wait until that age before you star the training.
Accumulated snow means the boundary signal needs to do more work, so we turn up the signal strength at the base station as the snow starts to accumulate. The systems can deal with about 3 feet of snow, but after that they will no longer be able to get through the snow no matter how much you turn them up.
Hi. I have two dogs. A 2 year old male English Bulldog and a 3 year old male American Bulldog. We recently moved to the country and have 10 acres, mostly wooded, with horses and cows next door. We are interested in getting a pet fence, but not sure which to buy. We have looked into the Pet Safe Stubborn and the DogTek EF 6000. The English Bulldog is fairly calm and doesn’t need much training, but the American Bulldog as soon as he gets out the door or off his chain he runs and doesn’t come back. We would like to give them 2-5 acres to play and not have to worry. What do you suggest as far as which system to buy and also what size wire gauge do you think is best?
ADMIN – Hi Elyssa,
With Bulldogs, it is useful to have the stronger and more powerful PetSafe Stubborn collars. You may not end up needing to use the collars at their highest level, but with the English and American Bulldog, it is useful to have in reserve.
We’re a multiple dog household. We have an 52 lb Airedale, a smaller mixed breed (18 lbs) and a 12 lb poodle. We have a wooded 5 acre lot with pretty steep hills. We would like a system with 5 or more correction levels with independent correction settings.
It’s also important to us to have a warning sound/vibration and then the correction. We are considering the Dogtek EF4000 but are concerned that with the lot we aren’t looking at a heavy duty enough system for the terrain and woods. The area we fence in isn’t as important as the correction level feature we’re looking for.
Also, should we consider higher gauge wire than the typically included 20 gauge? Thank you!
ADMIN – Hi Raquel.
The Dogtek will have trouble with that kind of range, it isn’t happy over 1-2 acres. With those three dogs, the PetSafe Inground would be a good choice. The collar is small enough that it would fit the poodle, and you could also use it on the Airedale. I does only have four correction levels, but that shouldn’t be a problem with those three dogs.
Upgrading the wire is helpful if you think your area is going to be prone to wire breaks. The thicker wire does a lot to reduce breaks.
Hello, I’m glad I found this website we have 2.1 acres which runs the length of the road shaped as a rectangle and we have a pond on the property as well. But we have a very active 8 month old beagle,shes 21 pounds ans loves to run, but we want to be able to let her run around with the kids outside instead of being on the leash or the run line. Please can you suggest what system we should venture into, thank you.
ADMIN – Hi Kallea,
For a beagle, it will be important to have a small but still strong collar. I would use either a PetSafe Ultrasmart or a PetSafe Inground Fence. Both systems have among the smallest and lightest full strength collars. The difference between those two is the Ultrasmart has a rechargeable collar, while the Inground relies on a disposable collar but is also a little cheaper.
I have a full blooded Boxer and an American Standard Bulldog. The Bulldog is probably 70 pounds and the Boxer weighs 60 pounds. We are wanting to put them both in an invisible fence. I was thinking that the Dogtek EF-6000 was the best suit for them. But whats your input about it? Thank you.
ADMIN – Hi Lisa,
I think they are both good choices. The Bulldog is likely to need one of the stronger collars, and so the PetSafe Stubborn would be my top choice.
Foremost, thank you! Seems to be a lot of work to maintain and monitor this site, and I have found it incredibly useful in researching fence options, so thank you!
I have two dogs – a 75lb collie/retriever mix (long hair, high anxiety w/people and other dogs but loves to play/run/chase) and a 40lb shephard/collie mix (short hair, low anxiety, really loves to run/chase). Both are moderately obedient in the absence of another animal distraction, and both have a low pain tolerance (ie: PetSafe Stubborn is not an option). Most importantly, both are extremely intelligent and I am concerned about the jumping reports I’ve read amidst user reviews.
My fence area is just over a half acre square with a primarily wooded (dense in summer) perimeter.
My budget is $150-225 for the system, knowing I need to spend an additional $70-$100 for an extra collar and possibly added wire.
On the inexpensive side of that, I like the DogTek EF-4000 because of the comfort and weight of the collars, and because its downsides are issues I’m not concerned with. On the expensive side, I like the SportDog SDF-100A, because of the 9V battery and the ability to increase range.
All of that said … you’re the expert. Thanks again!!!!
ADMIN – Hi Andrew,
Those two systems you mention are both good options and will get the job done. I would also add the PetSafe Inground to the list. It is an excellent system and is going to be at the low range of your budget. It also has the benefit of having a smaller collar than the SportDog, but it does use a proprietary battery.
Hello, We have two chihuahuas. I am guessing Zeke weighs 7lbs and Daisy will weigh about the same. We also have Levi, and he weigh about 70lbs. Is there a fence that you can suggest for us?
ADMIN – Hi Bonnie,
For the two Chihuahuas, the PetSafe Little collars would be a good choice, because they are smaller and have a milder correction more appropriate for small dogs. For the bigger Levi, I would add the compatible PetSafe Deluxe Collar.
Hi, I have a little terrier who runs around like a crazy dog!! He doesn’t go anywhere far, but I don’t want him going into the neighbors yards like he does! I want to get an invisible fence, although I’m seeing so many choices!!! I’m only on probably 1 acre and I see the one I want goes up to 25 acres. My question is can I change the setting on the box to go to any perimeter I want it to go?
ADMIN – Hi Anna,
Yes. The capacity listed on all the systems is the maximum capacity, and you can adjust them downward for smaller yards.
We have a chihuahua (7lbs) and a Maltese/terrier (10lbs). They are both escape artist and we have no luck blocking their attempts at escaping. The Maltese is a digger and the chi can fit through anything. We have a hill and our property is about half an acre. Which system do you suggest? We also allow them to come inside via the doggy door. Do we need to wire the front yard at well?
ADMIN – Hi Meghan,
For two small dogs like the Chihuahua and Maltese, where they are under 12 lbs, the PetSafe Little Dog is the best choice. The collar on the system is smaller and the correction levels lighter than on a regular system. A regular collar will be too big and too strong for that pair.
Well done website! THEN, I discovered the question section. Only one concern regarding the site: I wonder why Havahart, High Tech and Border Patrol brands are not discussed.
Now on to the real question. Our lot is very irregular, very rocky, surrounded by very steep downhills and woods, with a creek running through it. This can be a raging torrent at times and at other times is virtually dry. We have lost dogs to the highway and have not had success training them to stay on the property. We had a wired system once, years ago, which worked well until winter and the deer got to it. Because of the topography and the rocks, we had laid the wire on the surface in the woods. One other problem we had then: the receiver collar stopped working as it would dip in the water when she drank.
We want another Boston Terrier and are going to try the wires again, having decided that the steep slopes will not work with wireless (what a disappointment!). Of course this time, technology and competition have evolved. Does it make sense to try to sleeve the wire in hose where I can’t bury it? Or would just going with a 14g wire work? We can get the wire across the creek by the road bridge, but getting it back to close the loop means I’d have to recross it by stringing it 3 feet or more above the normal surface, not a good height for deer to miss. Or should I just forget about giving access to both sides of the creek? That is an option.
And the usual question: which Brand/model should work best for out application? Thanks so much.
ADMIN – Hi Roland,
I think we have reviewed all those systems you mention. The Havahart and Border Patrol Fences are reviewed in our wireless section. The High Tech Pet is listed under Humane Contain. If there is something we are missing let me know and we would love to check and do a review!
Sleeving the wire in hose or irrigation pipe is ideal, but you will find it very time consuming for a large lot like yours (I get the impression from your note that it is many acres of beautiful terrain!). If you sleeve the wire, then go with the cheaper 20 gauge wire. If you don’t sleeve the wire, 14 gauge would be a good second-best option, and will add a lot to the durability of the unprotected wire on the surface.
Most of the collar are now completely waterproof, so that should eliminate that weakness.
Creeks are always tricky, because of the issue of crossing the creek. If you do want to included it, an alternative to running the wire in the air is to put it in some hose pipe and either staple it to the creek bed, or weigh it down with some big rocks. The wire does tend to be vulnerable during flood times, and you will inevitably need to replace it every so often.
I encourage people to restrict everyday access to the creek – non-swimmers don’t ends up using the area, and swimmers are wet all day and track mud into the house. When we do an installation with a creek, at least half of them end up getting us to come back and end creek access for that reason. With a Boston Terrier, I am not sure they will do a lot of swimming.
I think the SportDog SDF-100A would be a good choice. It is a nice durable collar with excellent waterproofing and it can comfortably do up to 100 acres.
Wow- I didn’t know there were so many options in invisible fences so now I’m not sure what to do. I’m looking into getting a containment fence for my dog. He is a rescue pup (about 4 months old and mixed breed). He is possibly a boxer/vizsla or lab/border collie mix per my vet. We have a one acre lot with an odd position and the driveway cuts through the yard about in the middle. I want to avoid the area on one side of the driveway where my vegetable garden is but otherwise include the rest of the yard for him to roam and play. Also, my across-the-street neighbors have an invisible fence so I’m concerned about interference. What would you recommend for our situation? Thanks in advance for your help.
Melissa
ADMIN – Hi Melissa,
LOL, there are a lot of choices. I think the Dogtek EF-6000 would be a good fit with you size lot, and the temperament of your dog.
Neighbors that have an invisible fence along a common boundary can be an issue and you need to use a special dual frequency system, but across-the-road is enough separation that it will not be an issue.
PS – It would be good to wait until he is 6 months old to start training, unless he is particularly mature in his temperament (my test is, can he do a sit/stay/come with confidence).
Great Website – Very Informative
I sure would appreciate your guidance on what type of in-ground wired fence to buy – Please
I have an 8 year old golden retriever that has never been contained by an electronic fence. He is my baby boy, and I love him more than you can image so I want the best were cost is not a factor. I have approximately 3/4 acre and my next door neighbor has an in ground fence that he just installed for his tiny 7 pound dog. My dog loves to chase deer and greet other dogs… He may be eight years old and somewhat mellow he is still in great shape and loves to run. Please let me know your thoughts as we were thinking maybe the innotek iuc – 4100, or sportdog sdf-100a or possible the dogtek ef-4000.
Thanks in advance, and I am really looking forward to reading your reply as a subject matter expect your feedback will really help me make my final decision. Regards,
ADMIN – Hi Jeff,
You are in luck because Golden’s are usually among the easiest to train, so you can use almost anything.
The one issue I would flag, is that if the neighbor is going to run their fence near the common boundary you may get interference issues. (The wires for his fence and your fence need to be 6-12 feet apart). If the neighbor is running the fence right at the boundary and that kind of separation is impractical or uses up too much of the dog’s space, then the dual-frequency, Perimeter Ultra, system that is going to avoid the interference would be a good choice.
The systems you mention would all work well, and if interference is an non-issue my choice in order would be the Dogtek EF-6000, the Innotek, and then the SportDog (but again they would all do the job).
Hi Su,
My husband and I have a 1 year old Australian Shepherd. He shows some signs of aggression towards strangers, although he has improved since starting training. One thing that specifically sets him off is when children go running and giggling or screaming by. We want to make sure that we have a wireless fence that will contain him in our yard effectively. Another thing to note is that we have a SportDog training collar and he can handle (although does not like!) a level 8 – which is the highest level. Long story short, I’m looking for a fence that we won’t have to worry about him running through.
I also noticed when trying to find the DogTek EF6000 online that it may have been discontinued or something? I can’t find it anywhere…just the extra collars for it?
Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide me with!
ADMIN – Hi Danielle,
That you need to use the level 8 on the SportDog tells me you want to be using one of the stronger system. I would use either the Dogtek EF-6000 or the PetSafe Stubborn. And if the layout permits, you want to make the boundary zone nice and wide. (It is also possible with the remote trainer that you aren’t getting great contact between the collar prongs and the dog’s skin and may need to thin out a bit of his coat in that area. It is relatively unusual for an Aussie to require anything beyond a medium correction)
The Dogtek EF-6000 is relatively new to the United States, and they are having trouble keeping it in stock. We currently have stock if you decide to go in that direction.
Very informative website!!! A few questions – we have a small terrier mix (about 16 pounds). She can be aggressive wanting to meet other dogs that walk by our property. We want to fence in approximately .4 of an acre which has a significant slope front to back. Based on other recommendations it appears the Dogtek EF-6000 would be the recommended choice – agree? Any issues with the system working properly or special installation instructions given the elevation change? Is the standard wire sufficient? – We will have some tree roots in a few spots but are not installing in a wooded setting – just Pennsylvania shale soil to deal with. Appreciate your input and keep up the great work!
ADMIN – Hi Steve,
Thanks for the kind words. The EF-6000 would be a good choice. Slope is a non-issue for wired fences such as the Dogtek (it is an issue for wireless fences).
Tree roots are troublesome. If it is an area that is not grassed (so you will not be mowing it), I find it easiest to just staple the wire to the ground. Otherwise, I try and weave around the major roots, and use a trencher to help me cut through the minor ones.
Thanks for the kind words. We intend to keep it up, if our customers aren’t delighted, we are going to have to go out and get real jobs and wear suits and stuff!
Hi, I am new to dog fencing systems. I want to go with the underground wired system, mainly because I want to be able to control the area that my dog can be. I live in the middle of my property (in city limits) and I just want him to be able to be in the back portion of the yard and some in the side. I was planning on running the wire from each corner of my house and making it a rectangle shape. The portion that there is no wire, will he be able to go inside without getting shocked? I don’t know much about these systems and am unsure which one I should get… I have less than an acre of land. Any advice will help. I want to be able to let him out the back door and then he will be in the containment area. and then I can let him in and not worry about him getting shocked since the wire is a good distance from the door (in the middle of the back of the house)
ADMIN – Hi Aaron,
The boundary wire always needs to make a complete loop. With a backyard only installation, there are a few options to complete the loop while still letting the dog pass freely through the back door. The most common wiring layouts would be to run the wire tight around the front of the house, or to run the wire up a downspout on one side of the house, across the gutter, and down the downspout on the other side of the house.
You diagrams, and more solutions for backyard-only layouts in the Installation –> Layouts section of the website.
Happy to make some recommendations on a system, can you tell me a bit about your dog (breed, age, weight, temperament)? Generally, if you are under an acre, the Dogtek EF-6000 is a good choice for dogs over 12 lbs, and the PetSafe Little Dog is a good choice for dogs under 12lbs.
Hi, We have a black lab retriever rescue dog about 3 1/2 years old. Our cabin in northern Mn has an area 50′x75 with a slight slope which would be good for our dog to use. Our next door neighbor has some sort of electronic fence for their little dog. What type fencing would you recommend? Thank you!
ADMIN – Hi Pam,
Labs are generally among the easier dogs to contain and will do well on most systems. Having an adjustable frequency system would be useful, because it can switch frequencies to avoid clashing with the neighbor’s system. Something like the Perimeter Technologies Ultra would be well suited to a Labrador and lets you adjust the frequency on the system to avoid interference.
We have 2 healers who have lived on and roamed 600 acres for several years. We moved closer to town and have 6 acres with an asphalt driveway. We would like them to roam the entire property. Any suggestions as to which system would work best for us?
ADMIN – Hi Cecilee,
For two smaller, active dogs like blue heelers on a larger property like that, the PetSafe Ulrasmart would be a good choice. The collar is small enough that it is going to be comfortable on the dogs, but the system is also powerful enough to handle the 6 acres.
To get the wire across that asphalt driveway, you just need to make a cut with a circular saw, place the wire in the slot, then caulk over it to seal it in place.
Need a little help..
I have a German Shepard 2 yrs old 85 lbs she has a sable coat (long Haired).. Who goes absolutely crazy jumping on the Gate and fence in the yard (she dislike other dogs).. i need to keep her off the fence (1 )she has cut her foot already (2) she has so much force running she had broken the gate..If your wondering why my neighbor has a Retriever that just walks around there (her) yard and my dog just wants to play so she keeps jumping on the fence … Now on the Gate side she dislike my other neighbor so she is always trying to get him when he passes to take out the trash..
So I am thinking about a wireless fence.. As replacing my chain link with privacy is way to costly…
Thanks
Steven
ADMIN – Hi Steven,
If you already have a chain link fence in place, your best bet would be to use a wired fence, and run the included wire along the existing fence. With a chain link fence, you could just zip-tie it in place or weave it through the chain link. That type of installation should take under an hour. You will get a cheaper and better fence than you would if you went with a wireless option.
Two good options for a German Shepherd would be a Dogtek EF-6000 or a PetSafe Stubborn (in that order).
Hi, I have a 120lb Great Dane and she is about a year now and I can’t get her to stay out of my gardens around my yard. Which system would you recommend? Thanks-Claudia
ADMIN – Hi Claudia
If the issue is just keeping a marauding Great Dane out of certain garden beds, and not containing her inside the yard, then the Pawz Away Rocks would be a good choice. You place these pods around your garden, and they create small exclusion zones to keep your dog out. Using these pods will be a lot quicker and easier than getting a full-containment system.
Someone is giving us a dog that is currently contained by a system installed by Invisible Fence. They are giving us the collars and system. I am debating whether or not to use the installation company or start the DIY process. My question is: are there any systems that are required to be installed by their parent company? At this point all I know is that the system is by Invisible Fence. I just didn’t want to start planning and making preparations only to find out that I cannot do it for some technical reason.
ADMIN – Hi Drew,
You should be able to easily install an invisible fence system, just like you would a regular DIY system. They all work the same way. The only pitfall is that you cannot adjust the correction level on the collar without a special computer – but that is a non-issue for you since the collar has already been programmed for the dog.
If you have the old system, you may well be able to get it installed by Invisible Fence for a relatively modest sum. It is only around $200 for the installation by our local franchisee, although we have had customers get quotes as high as $600 for a basic suburban installation. Where they really get you is the system, the collar, the training, and the batteries. But if you already have all that stuff, the installation price can be modest depending on your local franchise operator.
We have a 9 week old Husky/Pit female and are hoping to install an underground fence for her. We live in a town and have only 4 lots – which equals less than an acre. Which system do you recommend for us?
ADMIN – Hi Michelle,
For an area less than an acre, and with a Husky-Pitbull mix (a Pitky?), the Dogtek EF-6000 would be our top choice. The collar is nice and small, it is rechargeable, the correction levels go quite high (which can be useful with Pitbulls) and it could easily handle that area.
Note, you will want to wait till around 6 months before starting the training. Most dogs aren’t mature enough to learn the boundary rules before that age.
Hello! We currently have a chihuahua and a shepherd mix (around 30 lbs.) that we recently rescued. We have a fenced in back yard, but the chihuahua has learned to push the wire out at the bottom and dig under the wire. The shepherd can easily jump over the fence or climb if she is not on a runner. What type of fence do you recommend with what collars, and would it be preferable to attach it to the top of the fence or dig a channel around the perimeter of the area we want to secure? Thanks for your time!
ADMIN – Hi Lucy,
With a small dog like a Chihuahua, the PetSafe Little Dog collar is great because it much smaller than a regular collar and has a lower correction. We want something a little bigger and stronger for the Shepherd mix, so a PetSafe Deluxe collar would work well.
The most cost effective way to get that setup would be to get the PetSafe Inground system, using the included collar for the Shepherd mix. Then add an extra PetSafe Little Dog collar for the Chihuhua.
Both attaching the wire to the fence and burying it will work equally well. I would attach it to the top of the fence because it is easier and it is less likely to get damaged by someone doing yard-work.
GREAT WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!! What would be the best for a pit bull? We have about 3/4 acre yard? Also…what is the best wire to use and would we need to run it inside of PVC or anything? The yard is already fenced, could we attach to the fence somehow?
ADMIN – Hi Tara,
Thanks. For a Pitt Bull, you want one of the stronger collars because low sensitivity to the correction often runs in that breed. I would use either the Dogtek EF-6000 or the PetSafe Stubborn. Both are excellent systems and have higher correction settings that are available if you need them. The Dogtek is slightly more expensive but is rechargeable and gives you more control over the boundary. The PetSafe is slightly cheaper, but is not rechargeable and has a bigger bulkier collar.
If you have a fenced yard, the easiest way to run the wire is to staple it or zip-tie it to the fence. Preferably you want to run the wire a foot above ground to avoid any ugly confrontations with a weed whacker!. If you do that, you can use the cheapest 20 gauge wire, because damage to the wire is rare when it is elevated, and if it gets damaged is very easy to spot and repair.
We have a very active German Shepherd. We are looking to fence in about 1/2 acre. What would you recommend for our big boy?
ADMIN – Hi Dianne,
For larger dogs, and particularly guardian breeds like German Shepherd, one of the stronger collars is useful. Two I would recommend in your situation would be the Dogtek EF-6000 and the PetSafe Stubborn. Both are good collars and will get him safely contained. The Dogtek is a little more expensive, but is also rechargeable and gives you more control over the perimeter boundary. The PetSafe is a little cheaper, but uses a disposable battery.
We have a 55 lb black and tan hound we adopted. She was a stray and had free roam of the woods near a county park when we found her. After a year, we still find it difficult to keep her in our yard. We live in the country and there are no boundaries such as fences, etc. Because we don’t want her to be a nuisance to the neighbors (we caught her chasing their chickens one day!), we are going to invest in an underground system. We have 5 acres that could possibly be the area of enclosure – although I’m not sure that we will enclose all of it. When we say something to her when she attempts to leave the yard, her response can either be a) stop and see what you want or can offer her or b) selective deafness and keeps trotting down the driveway. She can be timid when she gets in trouble, so I don’t think we will need a stubborn dog system. I’m uncertain if the Dogtek EF-6000 or the SportDog SDF-100A would be a better choice for us. Or do you have another recommendation?
ADMIN – Hi Kim,
Both those systems, the Dogtek and the SportDog would work very well with a hound. The answer depends on how much area you intend on containing. The Dogtek containment area is not as large as the SportDog, but it has better features (like being rechargeable, and having a smaller collar).
If you plan on doing the full 5 acres, go with the SportDog system. The SportDog SDF-100A has a capacity of 100 acres which would give you plenty of power in reserve. The Dogtek can (barely) do 5 acres, but we prefer not to operate too close to the maximum capacity as that doesn’t give you anything in reserve incase you need a bit more power (e.g. when snow accumulates on the ground).
If you plan on doing anything less than 3 acres, use the Dogtek, for a similar price you will get a much more full featured system (more boundary controls, rechargeable collars, etc)
Hi, I have a 2 year old female Boxer weighing between 45 and 50 pounds. She is very strong and loves to escape and run free around the yard. Problem is we live near a major highway and I am so worried she will get lose and get hit. I was all set to buy a wireless system because I didn’t want to deal with the hassle of burying wire and worry about breaks in the line, we have 1 1/2 acres, but would only need 1 acre coverage.
Then I read it will not work if you have any type of metal and we have aluminum siding which we are going to replace within the year but we need coverage now. I am tired of having her stuck in a kennel or on a runner and want her to be able to run “free” and play outside with the kids. She is very strong and can pull even my large hubby but she is very sweet and loveable. I was looking at the stubborn system but noticed its not recommended for dogs under 50lbs, which she is just under and the collar looked a little bulky. I want a collar that is also slim and not bulky as I worry about her taking it off as she has chewed thru three collars until we got the harness one she has used for the last year. She is Houdini!!! Which system do you think would be best for my dog? I am also interested in upgrading the wire too, do you think that is a good idea?
ADMIN – Hi Sara,
For something slimline, but also strong enough for a Boxer, the Dogtek EF-6000 would be a good choice. You could also use the PetSafe Stubborn you suggested, and that would work well too, but it is going to have a much larger collar as you mentioned.
Upgrading the wire is helpful in preventing line breaks. When you are doing a small area like 1-acre, it is not a big price difference and is worth doing.
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