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	<title>Comments on: 18 Gauge or 20 Gauge</title>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At an old house I installed an innotek fence and had some wire left over. I about to install a new petsafe system in a new home. The new yard is slightly larger and I may need some extra wire. Is it ok to mix and match the innotek and petsafe wires in the same system? they are both 20 gauge.

ADMIN - Hi Brian,

At an old house I installed an innotek fence and had some wire left over. I about to install a new petsafe system in a new home. The new yard is slightly larger and I may need some extra wire. Is it ok to mix and match the innotek and petsafe wires in the same system? they are both 20 gauge.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At an old house I installed an innotek fence and had some wire left over. I about to install a new petsafe system in a new home. The new yard is slightly larger and I may need some extra wire. Is it ok to mix and match the innotek and petsafe wires in the same system? they are both 20 gauge.</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Brian,</p>
<p>At an old house I installed an innotek fence and had some wire left over. I about to install a new petsafe system in a new home. The new yard is slightly larger and I may need some extra wire. Is it ok to mix and match the innotek and petsafe wires in the same system? they are both 20 gauge.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great info on the site, thanks!
Do you have experience with/think it is reasonable to use an electric fence only when we leave home?  
We live in a rural area with about 15 acres, surrounded by water on three sides. The 2 dogs (lab mix) usually have the run of the place.  However, they tend to roam if we are not around and we have just moved here a couple months ago.  I don&#039;t want to upset our neighbors (though quite a distance away).   One possibility was to put the collars on and use a system only when we leave.  The other was to setup a large perimeter and keep it on.  
Thanks again.

ADMIN - Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the feedback! I&#039;d recommend the second option you mentioned.  Once you go through the training and your dogs are contained you want to keep it that way.  If you remove their collars and let them roam through the boundary, they will typically get confused later when they have their collars off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great info on the site, thanks!<br />
Do you have experience with/think it is reasonable to use an electric fence only when we leave home?<br />
We live in a rural area with about 15 acres, surrounded by water on three sides. The 2 dogs (lab mix) usually have the run of the place.  However, they tend to roam if we are not around and we have just moved here a couple months ago.  I don&#8217;t want to upset our neighbors (though quite a distance away).   One possibility was to put the collars on and use a system only when we leave.  The other was to setup a large perimeter and keep it on.<br />
Thanks again.</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Kevin,</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback! I&#8217;d recommend the second option you mentioned.  Once you go through the training and your dogs are contained you want to keep it that way.  If you remove their collars and let them roam through the boundary, they will typically get confused later when they have their collars off.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m planning on purchasing the stubborn dog fence, because i have a Golden Retriever and a Pomeranian,  i was told the PetSafe Little Dog collar will work with this system also, i was first looking at the Sportdog, but was told no other collars will work, besides the Sportdog collar, is this true? 

Also by looking at sportdog and stubborn dog collars the look the same except the colors, are these 2 collars the same and is one smaller than the other.  Also on the SportDog I see where you can connect it to a ground rod , to protect against lightning strikes, can you also do the same with the stubborn dog or do i need to buy the surge protector?....thanks Doug

My tenants next door moved out after having Invisible Fence installed, they left the wire in the ground so i pulled up about 500 ft of it, i used wire strippers to check the gauge of the wire and its 16 ga solid core wire, i need about a thousand feet of wire to complete the area i was wanting to enclose , I&#039;m going to get the stubborn dog system witch only comes with 500 ft of 20 ga, can i splice the 16 gauge with the 20 gauge stubborn dog comes with?
thanks Doug

ADMIN - Hi Doug,

The SportDog Collar work with the PetSafe Deluxe, PetSafe Little Dog, and PetSafe Stubborn systems and vice-versa, so your plan to combine the SportDog and PetSafe collars will work fine.  One thing to note is that the SportDog collar does not work with the PetSafe Indoor zones.

The PetSafe Stubborn collar is similar to the SportDog SDF-100A collars but there are differences, most importantly that the SportDog does not work with the PetSafe indoor zones, but the PetSafe Stubborn does.  The base stations are also significantly different, for example the PetSafe Stubborn does not have a grounding terminal which means that you need to use the Lightning Protection Module if lightning strikes are a concern.  (note that a power strip surge protector will not work, it protects against power surges coming in through your electrical system, not power surges coming in through the boundary wire)

You want to avoid mixing wire gauges that are very different, such as 20 gauge and 16 gauge.  The reason is that the thicker gauge will transmit a wider boundary field around it that the thinner wire.  This means that you will have inconsistent field widths in your system, which may create difficulties depending on your layout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m planning on purchasing the stubborn dog fence, because i have a Golden Retriever and a Pomeranian,  i was told the PetSafe Little Dog collar will work with this system also, i was first looking at the Sportdog, but was told no other collars will work, besides the Sportdog collar, is this true? </p>
<p>Also by looking at sportdog and stubborn dog collars the look the same except the colors, are these 2 collars the same and is one smaller than the other.  Also on the SportDog I see where you can connect it to a ground rod , to protect against lightning strikes, can you also do the same with the stubborn dog or do i need to buy the surge protector?&#8230;.thanks Doug</p>
<p>My tenants next door moved out after having Invisible Fence installed, they left the wire in the ground so i pulled up about 500 ft of it, i used wire strippers to check the gauge of the wire and its 16 ga solid core wire, i need about a thousand feet of wire to complete the area i was wanting to enclose , I&#8217;m going to get the stubborn dog system witch only comes with 500 ft of 20 ga, can i splice the 16 gauge with the 20 gauge stubborn dog comes with?<br />
thanks Doug</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Doug,</p>
<p>The SportDog Collar work with the PetSafe Deluxe, PetSafe Little Dog, and PetSafe Stubborn systems and vice-versa, so your plan to combine the SportDog and PetSafe collars will work fine.  One thing to note is that the SportDog collar does not work with the PetSafe Indoor zones.</p>
<p>The PetSafe Stubborn collar is similar to the SportDog SDF-100A collars but there are differences, most importantly that the SportDog does not work with the PetSafe indoor zones, but the PetSafe Stubborn does.  The base stations are also significantly different, for example the PetSafe Stubborn does not have a grounding terminal which means that you need to use the Lightning Protection Module if lightning strikes are a concern.  (note that a power strip surge protector will not work, it protects against power surges coming in through your electrical system, not power surges coming in through the boundary wire)</p>
<p>You want to avoid mixing wire gauges that are very different, such as 20 gauge and 16 gauge.  The reason is that the thicker gauge will transmit a wider boundary field around it that the thinner wire.  This means that you will have inconsistent field widths in your system, which may create difficulties depending on your layout.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Lainhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina Lainhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much wire would we need if we want to do about 1 and 1/4 acres

ADMIN - Hi Tina,

You&#039;d need 1,500 feet of wire to cover 1 and 1/4 acres.  Keep in mind that most systems come with 500 feet of wire.  

http://www.dogfencediy.com/faqs/how-much-wire/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much wire would we need if we want to do about 1 and 1/4 acres</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Tina,</p>
<p>You&#8217;d need 1,500 feet of wire to cover 1 and 1/4 acres.  Keep in mind that most systems come with 500 feet of wire.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dogfencediy.com/faqs/how-much-wire/">http://www.dogfencediy.com/faqs/how-much-wire/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Laura Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you mix 20 gauge wire with 18 gauge wire in the same system or does it all have to be the same gauge?

ADMIN - Hi Laura,

You want to avoid mixing very different gauges of wire, because the sections with thicker wires will produce a wider boundary signal than the sections with thinner wire.

You can mix 20 gauge and 18 gauge and the system will work fine, but be aware that the boundary will be wider in the 18 gauge sections than in the 20 gauge sections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you mix 20 gauge wire with 18 gauge wire in the same system or does it all have to be the same gauge?</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Laura,</p>
<p>You want to avoid mixing very different gauges of wire, because the sections with thicker wires will produce a wider boundary signal than the sections with thinner wire.</p>
<p>You can mix 20 gauge and 18 gauge and the system will work fine, but be aware that the boundary will be wider in the 18 gauge sections than in the 20 gauge sections.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you choose to use the 18 gauge wire, you have to use it throughout the entire system, correct?  So if the original kit comes with 20 gauge, and you order extra wire at 18 gauge, then won&#039;t those two different size gauges be incompatible?  You stated you can &quot;upgrade&quot; most kits to 18 gauge...does this mean that you would take out the 20 gauge that comes with the original kit, and replace it with 18 gauge?  Thanks for your  help.

ADMIN - Hi Nicole,

You can mix and match different guages of wire, but try and keep the guages close.  The reason we avoid mixing very different gauges is that the fence will be a little wider in sections with a thicker wire, and a little narrower in sections with thinner wire.

We do upgrade the wire in the kit, so if you get an 18 guage wire upgrade all the wire your receive will be 18 gauge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you choose to use the 18 gauge wire, you have to use it throughout the entire system, correct?  So if the original kit comes with 20 gauge, and you order extra wire at 18 gauge, then won&#8217;t those two different size gauges be incompatible?  You stated you can &#8220;upgrade&#8221; most kits to 18 gauge&#8230;does this mean that you would take out the 20 gauge that comes with the original kit, and replace it with 18 gauge?  Thanks for your  help.</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Nicole,</p>
<p>You can mix and match different guages of wire, but try and keep the guages close.  The reason we avoid mixing very different gauges is that the fence will be a little wider in sections with a thicker wire, and a little narrower in sections with thinner wire.</p>
<p>We do upgrade the wire in the kit, so if you get an 18 guage wire upgrade all the wire your receive will be 18 gauge.</p>
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		<title>By: Tad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I unfortunately have a bad case of moles in my back yard.    Have you run across any problems with the moles chewing through the buried wire?    Will constant mole activity disrupt the buried wire?     I know strange question.

ADMIN - Hi Tad,

Moles, gophers, etc do not usually cause problems with the wire, (I suppose because wire is not particularly tasty).  However, we do hear of the ocassional case where the mole will chomp right through.  We don&#039;t have any great solutions for that problem - maybe someone has a solution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I unfortunately have a bad case of moles in my back yard.    Have you run across any problems with the moles chewing through the buried wire?    Will constant mole activity disrupt the buried wire?     I know strange question.</p>
<p>ADMIN &#8211; Hi Tad,</p>
<p>Moles, gophers, etc do not usually cause problems with the wire, (I suppose because wire is not particularly tasty).  However, we do hear of the ocassional case where the mole will chomp right through.  We don&#8217;t have any great solutions for that problem &#8211; maybe someone has a solution?</p>
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